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Apple says iPhone 4 calculates bars wrong, software fix forthcoming

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  • Raging Cortez Calculating status...
    This does jibe with the homegrown test I did yesterday with the iP4 and 3GS.
    15" MacBook Pro 2.66 GHz, Mac OS X (10.6.3)
  • ke11111y Level 1 Level 1 (105 points)
    Mind you, I am getting bars in places where I had no reception at all but I am finding I can make/keep a call no problem in these places. I thought it was because the phone was better than the 3GS.
    iPhone 4, iOS 4
  • sophos9 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    Amen - these were the same people who were screaming 'hardware issue' without any knowledge of hardware
    Mac, Win, Unix, iOS 4
  • Glenn1961 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Are you kidding me? First it was the battery percentage being calculated wrong on the 3GS. Now they're saying the new phone (IOS 4) calculates the bars incorrectly? So does that mean that people who loaded the new OS on the 3GS have the same problem? I don't think so, because I haven't heard anyone say they have reception problems with the 3GSsI don't think you can say that if people are complaining about dropped calls. So the patch comes out in the next few weeks--probably after everyone who bought a phone--won't be able to return it within the 30-day grace period.
    Iphone 3GS and 4, Windows 7, x64
  • sophos9 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    There have been lots of people that have reported issue on the 3G and 3GS after iOS4 was installed, search this forum
    Mac, Win, Unix, iOS 4
  • Julian Wright Level 7 Level 7 (34,835 points)
    I haven't heard anyone say they have reception problems with the 3GSs


    I can reproduce this exact iPhone 4 issue on my 3GS, just cupping my hand around the lower right corner, not the left.

    However, I had not noticed it AT ALL until all these media reports about it.
    20" iMac 2.4Ghz, 4GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.6.3), iPhone 3GS 32GB (iOS 4)
  • securityguy75 Calculating status...
    Fixing the display doesn't fix the actual reception issue. So they've been investigating something irrelevant for days. They should just eliminate the stupid graphical bars and display the dBm level.
    Other OS
  • Andy Thomas Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    sophos9 wrote:
    There have been lots of people that have reported issue on the 3G and 3GS after iOS4 was installed, search this forum


    I am one of those people Sophos which is why I'm willing to believe that's it's a software issue and why I published what I did ealier in this thread.

    I have an iPhone 4 on order and will get it on the 22nd July, in the interim I hope the new fix comes out so I can try it on my 3GS.

    I have moments during the day where my os4 3GS phone just says "searching" for no reason even though it hasn't moved from it's position on my desk.... didn't do that before on 3.1.3, so I predict a s/w related issue.

    Yes there may well be an issue with the antena "death grip" but with a s/w fix this might solve it.
    iPhone 3GS, iOS 4, MacPro, Macbook Pro
  • deftonesfool Calculating status...
    Andy Thomas wrote:
    sophos9 wrote:
    There have been lots of people that have reported issue on the 3G and 3GS after iOS4 was installed, search this forum


    I am one of those people Sophos which is why I'm willing to believe that's it's a software issue and why I published what I did ealier in this thread.

    I have an iPhone 4 on order and will get it on the 22nd July, in the interim I hope the new fix comes out so I can try it on my 3GS.

    I have moments during the day where my os4 3GS phone just says "searching" for no reason even though it hasn't moved from it's position on my desk.... didn't do that before on 3.1.3, so I predict a s/w related issue.

    Yes there may well be an issue with the antena "death grip" but with a s/w fix this might solve it.

    yea, highly doubt it. They've been inflating signal bars since the iPhone came out which is 1 red flag. Now that this epic fail antenna issue is blowing up, they are going to fix the cell phone bar issue and call it a day.

    this is like fixing the handlebars on a bike that has a flat tire.
    PC
  • sophos9 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    Thats not handy for 90% of the 1.7m sales so far - end users in that bracket need visual representation

    There is not a reception issue, its baseband calibration
    Mac, Win, Unix, iOS 4
  • gfgrimm Calculating status...
    sophos9 wrote:
    Thats not handy for 90% of the 1.7m sales so far - end users in that bracket need visual representation

    There is not a reception issue, its baseband calibration
    sophos9 wrote:
    Thats not handy for 90% of the 1.7m sales so far - end users in that bracket need visual representation

    There is not a reception issue, its baseband calibration


    So your angle on this is that in spite of not admitting to a calibration problem in their PR, you feel that there will be some calibrations performed in the update in addition to re-mapping bars to SnR?
    Core i7 920 @ 4Ghz / 6GB DDR3 2000 / 128GB Intel X25-M / BFG Geforce 260 GTX, Windows 7, iPhone 1/3G/3GS/4
  • David. Level 4 Level 4 (2,145 points)
    Do you really think Apple is capable of making the software do a better job of display signal strength in dBm when it can't even do 5 bars correctly? Apple is just in too much of a hurry to test it's OS releases properly. The next OS will have issues too. And the next. And the next. They are very sloppy. First it was "you are holding wrong", to we "calculated signal bars wrong". What's next? oh! "oops, perhaps our "new and magical" antenna has some issues..."
    Windows 7, - Ipod 4G, Ipod Mini 2G, Shuffle 2G, Nano 2G, Touch 2G - 3.1.3
  • madmanuk2 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    {quote:title=Julian Wright wrote:}
    I can reproduce this exact iPhone 4 issue on my 3GS, just cupping my hand around the lower right corner, not the left.

    {quote}

    I tried this, I admit rather cynically - and was surprised to find when holding my 3gs left handed the signal does repeatably drop from 5 bars to 3...
    Mac OS X (10.6.4)
  • sophos9 Level 1 Level 1 (25 points)
    David - tell me of a company that creates major revisions perfect first time? Apple may get a few bugs but they always sort them to create a great user experience (remember the buggy days of os v1 & 2)
    Mac, Win, Unix, iOS 4
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