Acces control extreme (5th gen)

Can anyone help me.

I have found the access control in the AirPort Utility settings. Does this only apply to wifi (connected ipads, ipods etc)?

I would like to add a cabled computer as well. So would it work with adding the MAC address of the computer in this same list (the computer is also cabled from the extreme)? Or is this access control function limited to wifi connected devices?

AirPort Extreme 802.11ac Gen1

Posted on Dec 22, 2018 2:42 AM

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Posted on Dec 24, 2018 3:12 AM

Control of wired computer is outside the controls that Apple built into the Airport range.. and they stopped manufacture in April anyway.. so you will need to buy a new router at some stage. You can keep the airport as a wireless access point.


I have tested a number of routers with the demise of the Airport range.


Getting decent controls in a router is still not that common.


The best router firmware I have seen so far is the Gargoyle 3rd party... so you will need to apply this to a different brand of router.. eg Linksys WRT1200AC which are not expensive and have very reasonable specs. I have recently come back to this as my no1. recommend for what you are asking for. It does need that bit of a step to flash over the firmware which is a simple download and chose it as upgrade.


Asus high end router are very good with easy to setup controls and excellent wireless.. you need RT-AC88U or RT-AC86U or even better ones. I have hit an issue in a new setup so not every router works on every configuration. Be prepared to trial these things for a while and return them if they don't work.


I would recommend it as no.2


Synology are another one worth a look.. I am just not sure about its controls over wired computer.


Mesh systems are now also becoming popular but they have limited controls. Units like the Netgear Orbi can use ethernet backbone not just wireless. They are expensive for a whole set and perhaps limited cloud type setup.


A lot of people are moving away from the domestic type routers to more semi-pro .. particularly Ubiquiti. They have amazing controls and even the bottom end router models are very cheap. However they are just routers.. so you need to add a switch and wireless access points.. (WAP). An overall system.. router, switch and wireless AP will cost you a fair bit more than domestic all in one routers.. but easily outperform and outlast them. So the Ubiquiti system I bought was 20% more than Netgear top end Mesh system. Hugely superior controls though.

It is not as simple as domestic router though and I would only recommend it for someone who does enough networking to understand what they are looking at.. time and patience to learn the interface.. it is not hard but you have a steep learning curve going from simplistic apple routers to something like these.


You contract it out and get someone to build it for you as alternative.. rather then pretending to be a network engineer.


Depending on the speed of your internet there are also parental control devices.. if this is to help your kids. They can be worth looking into. They definitely slow down your internet but take control of kids devices very effectively. (Disney CIrcle products).

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Dec 24, 2018 3:12 AM in response to Wessemius

Control of wired computer is outside the controls that Apple built into the Airport range.. and they stopped manufacture in April anyway.. so you will need to buy a new router at some stage. You can keep the airport as a wireless access point.


I have tested a number of routers with the demise of the Airport range.


Getting decent controls in a router is still not that common.


The best router firmware I have seen so far is the Gargoyle 3rd party... so you will need to apply this to a different brand of router.. eg Linksys WRT1200AC which are not expensive and have very reasonable specs. I have recently come back to this as my no1. recommend for what you are asking for. It does need that bit of a step to flash over the firmware which is a simple download and chose it as upgrade.


Asus high end router are very good with easy to setup controls and excellent wireless.. you need RT-AC88U or RT-AC86U or even better ones. I have hit an issue in a new setup so not every router works on every configuration. Be prepared to trial these things for a while and return them if they don't work.


I would recommend it as no.2


Synology are another one worth a look.. I am just not sure about its controls over wired computer.


Mesh systems are now also becoming popular but they have limited controls. Units like the Netgear Orbi can use ethernet backbone not just wireless. They are expensive for a whole set and perhaps limited cloud type setup.


A lot of people are moving away from the domestic type routers to more semi-pro .. particularly Ubiquiti. They have amazing controls and even the bottom end router models are very cheap. However they are just routers.. so you need to add a switch and wireless access points.. (WAP). An overall system.. router, switch and wireless AP will cost you a fair bit more than domestic all in one routers.. but easily outperform and outlast them. So the Ubiquiti system I bought was 20% more than Netgear top end Mesh system. Hugely superior controls though.

It is not as simple as domestic router though and I would only recommend it for someone who does enough networking to understand what they are looking at.. time and patience to learn the interface.. it is not hard but you have a steep learning curve going from simplistic apple routers to something like these.


You contract it out and get someone to build it for you as alternative.. rather then pretending to be a network engineer.


Depending on the speed of your internet there are also parental control devices.. if this is to help your kids. They can be worth looking into. They definitely slow down your internet but take control of kids devices very effectively. (Disney CIrcle products).

Dec 24, 2018 7:34 AM in response to Wessemius

Would you have an other suggestion to limit the internet time for a computer wired to the AirPort Extreme? Of should I buy a router with these capabilities?


If I needed quick solution, there are couple of things that you could do without having to set up a completely new network with a new router.


1) Configure an AirPort Express to "join" the AirPort Extreme wireless network and then connect the Ethernet cable that goes to the wired computer to the AirPort Express. Since the AirPort Express becomes a wireless client of the AirPort Extreme, you could set up Timed Access for the AirPort Express and control the wired computer access times this way.


You may have to disguise the location of the AirPort Express if you suspect that the wired computer user will try to figure out why they can't connect to the Internet at 2 AM. A possible downside to this is that the Ethernet port on the AirPort Express is limited to 100 Mbps speeds.


2) A better option performance wise would involve using a simple Ethernet switch and electronic timer. Hide the switch and timer and connect from the Ethernet port on the AirPort Extreme to the switch. Then connect another Ethernet cable from the Ethernet switch to the wired computer.


This is the method that I use when the grandkids are visiting and they want to connect their wired game console on the network. I hide the Ethernet switch and timer in my office so it would be difficult for even a curious person to find it.


If you want to go with a new router, offhand I cannot think of a specific model or brand that might include the feature that you need. But I would start by looking at the specifications for an Ubiquiti or Cisco router. I would also look at the Synology router as well. If the specifications for a given router do not reveal the answer, you could try posting on a support forum for the router that you are interested in.





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