Crash of New Logic 9 Install (upgrade from 8)

Hi everyone sure could use some help. I'm an experienced software engineer and long time e musician. producer and engineer. I finally switched over from the PC to Mac environment and I LOVE it. I not so great at reading mac crash dumps yet.

I recently bought the upgrade for from Logic 8 to 9. As soon as I start up 9 I get my RemoteSL Automap server (as usual) then the logic splash screen. On the splash screen I can see the AU loading, the plugin load and then the main screen appear fine. Whatever I do next seems to crash it. If I create an empty project, then create a new audio track Logic goes away and I get a crash notification. Tried many variations, but generally the first this you do crashes.

I have checked and repaired my disk permissions.

I haven't updated to Snow Leopard yet. I've been stuck since I used MOTU Ethno 1 a lot in projects and they have yet to make compatible with SL (argg) so I need to buy Ethno 2. I also NI Komplete and am upgrading from 5 to 6.


Here's my configuration

Model: MacBookPro4,1, BootROM MBP41.00C1.B03, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.5 GHz, 4 GB
Graphics: GeForce 8600M GT, GeForce 8600M GT, spdisplays pciedevice, 512 MB
Memory Module: global_name
AirPort: spairport wireless_card_type_airportextreme (0x14E4, 0x8C), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.91.21)
Bluetooth: Version 2.1.10f2, 2 service, 1 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: FUJITSU MHY2250BH, 232.89 GB
Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-867
USB Device: Built-in iSight, (null) mA
USB Device: hub_device, (null) mA
USB Device: ReMOTE SL, (null) mA
USB Device: Keyboard Hub, (null) mA
USB Device: Apple Keyboard, (null) mA
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, (null) mA
USB Device: IR Receiver, (null) mA
USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, (null) mA
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, (null) mA
FireWire Device: LaCie d2 Extreme LUN 0, LaCie Group SA, 400mbit_speed
FireWire Device: eGo HDD, Iomega, 800mbit_speed
FireWire Device: Duet, Apogee Electronics, 400mbit_speed

Here's my crash log. It crashes out in different threads depending what you do first. I've seen MAAudioEngine in there a few times. My guess is something is out of sync, but what?

Any helps would be greatly appreciated.


Process: Logic Pro [652]
Path: /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
Identifier: com.apple.logic.pro
Version: 9.1.1 (1697.53)
Build Info: Logic-16975300~2
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [77]

Interval Since Last Report: 4254 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 1
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 40 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 1

Date/Time: 2010-07-11 02:45:23.699 -0400
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
Report Version: 6
Anonymous UUID: 61EFC218-0349-410D-AFF9-7DF74A7C63EE

Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 15

Thread 0:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0xffff0f38 __memcpy + 1944 (cpu_capabilities.h:246)
1 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0003d78d std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 9693
2 com.apple.logic.pro 0x002b94b3 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 2614019
3 com.apple.logic.pro 0x005ea994 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 5961700
4 com.apple.logic.pro 0x005caa6d std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 5830845
5 com.apple.logic.pro 0x002ba83e std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 2619022
6 com.apple.logic.pro 0x001eed04 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 1784660
7 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0062e207 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 6238295
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x91787483 __NSFireTimer + 147
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322f8f5 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 4469
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322faa8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
11 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9063b2ac RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283
12 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9063b0c5 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374
13 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9063af39 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 106
14 com.apple.AppKit 0x959b36d5 _DPSNextEvent + 657
15 com.apple.AppKit 0x959b2f88 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x959abf9f -[NSApplication run] + 795
17 com.apple.prokit 0x0110814c NSProApplicationMain + 325
18 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0002aa55 DummyConnection::DummyConnection() + 193

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7266 mach msgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910eea5c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322ee7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322fb04 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x96174d0f TSystemNotificationTask::SystemNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 123
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a96fbb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7266 mach msgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910eea5c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322ee7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322fb04 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x96174e88 TFSEventsNotificationTask::FSEventsNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 216
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a96fbb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a98de3 TSWaitOnCondition + 126
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a77c36 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 202
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a98a60 MPWaitOnQueue + 208
5 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x9617fe6a TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 84
6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a96fbb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e72c6 semaphore timedwait_signaltrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911192af pthread_condwait + 1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9111ab33 pthread cond_timedwait_relativenp + 47
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a77c62 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a98a60 MPWaitOnQueue + 208
5 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x96181db4 TFolderSizeTask::FolderSizeTaskProc(void*) + 104
6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a96fbb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e72ae semaphore wait_signaltrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911192c6 pthread_condwait + 1267
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9115e539 pthread condwait + 48
3 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40145e92 apogeeDriverPlugInMessageQueue::WaitForNextMessageInList() + 62
4 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x4014653f ClientBiDirConnection::HandlePropertyChanges() + 27
5 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40146589 PthreadHandlingPropertyChanges(void*) + 21
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e72ae semaphore wait_signaltrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911192c6 pthread_condwait + 1267
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9115e539 pthread condwait + 48
3 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x4014590e MessageTX::TXThread() + 76
4 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40145bcb TransmitThread(void*) + 21
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9112fb96 recvfrom$NOCANCEL$UNIX2003 + 10
1 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40146971 ClientBiDirLocalSocketConnection::ReceiveData(void*, int) + 83
2 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40144e20 MessageRX::RXThread() + 136
3 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x401452c1 ReceiveThread(void*) + 21
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7266 mach msgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910eea5c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322ee7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322fb04 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer 0x4035c98f AVS::DestroyAVCDeviceController(AVS::AVCDeviceController*) + 317
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7266 mach msgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910eea5c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322ee7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322faa8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x904e55f8 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x904e5480 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 10:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x92bb3b32 glvmDoWork + 162
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 11:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911366fa select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 12:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.ColorSync 0x944693f8 pthreadSemaphoreWait(t_pthreadSemaphore*) + 42
3 com.apple.ColorSync 0x9447bd4e CMMConvTask(void*) + 54
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 13:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x02c2b328 ResolveFile + 54808
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x02c2b3f1 ResolveFile + 55009
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 14:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x02c2b328 ResolveFile + 54808
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x02c2b3f1 ResolveFile + 55009
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 15 Crashed:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911c3136 _semwait_signalnocancel + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911bc013 usleep$NOCANCEL$UNIX2003 + 61
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d362e __abort + 109
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911d368a cproc_forkchild + 0
4 com.apple.logic.pro 0x00405649 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 3974297
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911532bb _sigtramp + 43
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911116f0 nc_table_findn + 29
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911116bc token tablefind + 55
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91126d1c notify getstate + 36
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911144a1 asl_send + 313
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9328c454 __CFLogCString + 276
11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9328c92b _CFLogvEx + 299
12 com.apple.Foundation 0x91770c5e NSLogv + 174
13 com.apple.Foundation 0x917d01db NSLog + 27
14 com.apple.Foundation 0x9183ff7b _NSAutoreleaseNoPool + 107
15 com.apple.Foundation 0x9174c432 -[NSObject(NSObject) autorelease] + 18
16 com.apple.Foundation 0x9175789a +[NSString stringWithFormat:] + 106
17 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x932b011d __CFExceptionProem + 109
18 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x932b0151 -[NSObject doesNotRecognizeSelector:] + 33
19 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x932ae7ec __forwarding__ + 892
20 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x932ae8b2 CF_forwarding_prep0 + 50
21 com.apple.logic.pro 0x000c1adc std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 551212
22 ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02ceb9f9 MD::DriverCallback(IODriverAudioPB*) + 1753
23 ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02cffdf2 GetCurrentCoreAudioDeviceNameFromUserDefaults(signed char) + 4546
24 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x904f7177 HP_IOProc::Call(AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioBufferList const*, AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioBufferList*) + 319
25 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x904f6e68 IOA_Device::CallIOProcs(AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioTimeStamp const&) + 274
26 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x904f6d44 HP_IOThread::PerformIO(AudioTimeStamp const&) + 1246
27 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x904f511f HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 1239
28 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x904f4c43 HP IOThread::ThreadEntry(HPIOThread*) + 17
29 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x904e5480 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
30 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
31 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 16:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7386 mach waituntil + 10
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90aaf893 MPDelayUntil + 39
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90aaf727 Delay + 104
3 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x4a64e7e8 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 21574
4 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x4a669a5c RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 132794
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 17:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e72a2 semaphore waittrap + 10
1 com.ableton.live-engine 0x4ac03c0a TSingleSyncPoint::Wait() + 24
2 com.ableton.live-engine 0x4ac406e8 OValueProcessor::SetValue(float) + 1942
3 com.ableton.live-engine 0x4ac09471 TThread::Start() + 293
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 18:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02ce753c MD::CallProcessThread1(void*) + 108
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 19:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02ce72ec MD::CallProcessThread2(void*) + 108
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 20:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02ce675c MD::CallProcessThread7(void*) + 108
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 21:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02d03437 GetCurrentCoreAudioDeviceNameFromUserDefaults(signed char) + 18439
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 22:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7266 mach msgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910eea5c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x01470f0f XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101
3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x01463477 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 111
4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0146707d XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x014719ee CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 23:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e72c6 semaphore timedwait_signaltrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911192af pthread_condwait + 1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9111ab33 pthread cond_timedwait_relativenp + 47
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a77c62 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a77a42 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 422
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90aa8944 TimerThread + 74
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 24:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0xffff132f __longcopy + 303 (cpu_capabilities.h:249)
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0xffff086e __memcpy + 206 (cpu_capabilities.h:246)
2 libobjc.A.dylib 0x9094ef3a fixupSelectorsInMethodList + 99
3 libobjc.A.dylib 0x90950222 classgetMethodNoSuper + 150
4 libobjc.A.dylib 0x9094629e classlookupMethodAndLoadCache + 182
5 libobjc.A.dylib 0x909566d6 objc_msgSend + 102
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x91752dfd -[NSThread main] + 45
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x917529a4 _NSThread__main_ + 308
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 25:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91150292 _workqops + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911502c2 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 26:
0 ??? 0000000000 0 + 0

Thread 15 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x0000003c ebx: 0x911c2c88 ecx: 0xb07d0dfc edx: 0x911c3136
edi: 0xa0150600 esi: 0xb07d0e58 ebp: 0xb07d0e38 esp: 0xb07d0dfc
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00000247 eip: 0x911c3136 cs: 0x00000007
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x033beff0

Binary Images:
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0xea0000 - 0xed3fe7 com.apple.music.apps.MAAudioUnitSupport 9.1.1 (231.34) <ab1a5e35bc1f1716aaa968745fda266e> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MAAudioUnitSupport.framework/Versions/A/MAAudioUnit Support
0xee8000 - 0xf19ffb +MAAssetSharing ??? (???) <7d0fe79e7d921756c27b5d547252f9a8> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MAAssetSharing.framework/Versions/A/MAAssetSharing
0xf2d000 - 0xff6fe5 com.apple.DiscRecording 4.0.7 (4070.4.1) <7c105f35c674aad3a476f8959d3f3ebb> /System/Library/Frameworks/DiscRecording.framework/Versions/A/DiscRecording
0x1061000 - 0x1063fff com.apple.ExceptionHandling 1.5 (10) /System/Library/Frameworks/ExceptionHandling.framework/Versions/A/ExceptionHand ling
0x106a000 - 0x10c8fff com.apple.music.apps.MALoopManagement 9.1.1 (218.13) <17d4e2870249e071f32ba049994449cf> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MALoopManagement.framework/Versions/A/MALoopManagem ent
0x10e5000 - 0x12a0ff3 com.apple.prokit 5.1 (917) <423cd2a7dd7379ddd0edbafa77282c85> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ProKit.framework/Versions/A/ProKit
0x13a9000 - 0x1427ffb com.apple.music.apps.MACore 9.1.1 (475.31) <adcffc7057555f054f4b452ed7c964b1> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MACore.framework/Versions/A/MACore
0x145f000 - 0x147cff7 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 1.6.1 (42) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMIDI.framework/Versions/A/CoreMIDI
0x1494000 - 0x14eafe3 com.apple.music.apps.MAHarmony 9.1.1 (198.13) <1b91602b7019b1eb95f2a3dcb555e04c> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MAHarmony.framework/Versions/A/MAHarmony
0x1506000 - 0x191dfeb com.apple.music.apps.MAPlugInGUI 9.1.1 (423.18) <23fb7cbe94db66a05d3abeca5b1f5f3f> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/MAPlugInGUI.framework/Versions/A/MAPlugInGUI
0x1c2b000 - 0x1d0dff7 com.apple.music.apps.OMF 9.1.1 (108.12) <45dd6e6879eb88af5a701b226cf3c621> /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/Frameworks/OMF.framework/Versions/A/OMF
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MacBookPro 2.66, Mac OS X (10.5.8), 4gig RAM, Apogee Duet

Posted on Jul 11, 2010 12:05 AM

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Jul 11, 2010 1:26 AM in response to Dsypeck

Not sure there are many people who can decipher those crash logs, although it's explicitly stated that thread 15 crashed. Too bad there isn't too much there to read in plain English... 😟

Particularly because you're getting crashes I'd suggest holding off on considering an update to S/L anytime soon. Troubleshoot what you have first.

Could be that you have to update your audio driver. Or maybe there's a conflict exists with respect to 3rd party plugins. To sus this out, start by launching Logic and hold down the CNTRL key after you see the splash screen. Eventually you'll get a startup message asking if you want to launch CoreAudio or not. Click on "no" and continue with the boot-up process.

Then go into your audio preferences and re-enable your audio driver. Immediately afterward open the AU Manager and disable all 3rd party plugs except for one. Try it out, see how things fly. If your system seems stable, open AU Manager again and enable another plug. Repeat the process until you encounter a crash. Basically, process of elimination.

HTH,

=iS=

Jul 11, 2010 11:14 AM in response to iSchwartz

Thanks for the quick response. That's how I'll proceed. I quite good at debugging this stuff under Windows (trust me I've done it enough) I just don't know all the Mac specifics yet.

I have repaired all the file permissions. I know there is also a way to clean out the old init files and the PRAM, just not sure exactly how that works.

I do have a few other clues. I do know how to read those crash logs on a PC (being a programmer) but not completely on a MAC.

It's not the same thread crashing every time. Depends on what the first thing you do when the program does open. It's usually thread 0, but it has also been 14, 15 or 16. It woofed somewhere around here:

15 com.apple.Foundation 0x9174c432 -NSObject(NSObject) autorelease + 18
16 com.apple.Foundation 0x9175789a +NSString stringWithFormat: + 106
17 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x932b011d __CFExceptionProem + 109
18 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x932b0151 -NSObject doesNotRecognizeSelector: + 33
19 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x932ae7ec __forwarding__ + 892
20 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x932ae8b2 CF_forwarding_prep0 + 50
21 com.apple.logic.pro 0x000c1adc std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 551212
22 ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02ceb9f9 MD::DriverCallback(IODriverAudioPB*) + 1753
23 ...le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02cffdf2 GetCurrentCoreAudioDeviceNameFromUserDefaults(signed char) + 4546

That NSObject doesNotRecognizeSelector looks likes the exception being thrown, so my guess is that the real error occurs at
le.music.apps.MAAudioEngine0x02ceb9f9MD::DriverCallback(IODriverAudioPB*) + 1753
and that callback is failing. Not sure but that looks like the audio engine isn't initializing correctly.

I'm using an Apogee interface so it should be highly compatible. I downloaded all the latest updates.

I do have quite a lot of plugins and almost all are up to date. I run NI Komplete, Drumcore, MOTU Ethno, Ableton Live, Cakewalk Dimension Pro, GURU, Korg Digital...Well let's just say lots (and yes they are ALL legal, registered and up to date). Many possibilities here and it's going to take a while to go through one by one.

I also have a pretty complex MIDI setup. A Mackie Logic Control board. Several keyboards (Novation Remote which is running the Automap server, Edirol PCR, Korg PadKontrol, Hart E-Drums through an Alesis DM5.

Logic 8 still seems to be running OK.

When I disconnect most of the keyboards and the Mackie I'm not getting the usual warning dialogs about the control surface not being installed. That's a little odd.

Thanks for the assist, looks like I know what I'm doing for the next couple of hours.

Jul 11, 2010 11:54 AM in response to Dsypeck

it's going to take a while to go through one by one.


You'll speed up the process a great deal by not going through them one by one. Instead, in this situation I would use a kind of binary search technique.

Your plugins are here:

Macintosh HD/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components
Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components

Probably most or all in the former place, not the latter.

Divide the group in half. Move half to some other folder. Launch Logic. Same problem? The result of this test tells you which group to focus on next. Divide that group in half, and repeat the test. And so on.

Even if you start out with 100 items, you will need no more than roughly 6 trials to find the culprit. Testing them one at a time is much slower, and not necessary.

There's a little bit of wrinkle you might run into. It could be the culprit is not any one item, but rather a combination of items. This underlines the value and importance of testing items in groups. That technique is faster, and also able to help you identify a multi-item problem. A multi-item problem will never appear (by definition) when you use a technique where you test the items one at a time.

Another complication is that the picture is not just plugins. Your complex midi setup means you have various drivers etc. So testing the plugins might not be enough, but I think it's the right place to start.

Also, I would start by trashing this file:

Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/Caches/com.apple.audiounits.cache

I would also consider trashing that file between each trial (although it means the trials will take longer). Logic stores plugin information there, and therefore this file might be part of the problem.

Jul 11, 2010 12:31 PM in response to Dsypeck

Ok it gets stranger.

I held down the CNTRL as suggested, got the launch CoreAudio dialog and said no. It immediately crashed and exits the program.

Does this mean it's not a plugin? My guess would be if it doesn't launch CA it's not loading the plugins yet either.

I've disconnected almost everything, Mackie etc.. I don't think it even got to launching the Novation Automap server.

Crash log as follows. Now it's in thread 18. It just seems to be starting a thread and going into a wait loop. Then boom.

PS Good idea on the plugin binary search. If I can get that far will try. I'll also try the deleting that file.

Thanks,

Doug

I'll have to contact Apple support, but of course it's Sunday...



Process: Logic Pro [356]
Path: /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
Identifier: com.apple.logic.pro
Version: 9.1.1 (1697.53)
Build Info: Logic-16975300~2
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [115]

Interval Since Last Report: 1810 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 1
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 24 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 1

Date/Time: 2010-07-11 15:11:29.227 -0400
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
Report Version: 6
Anonymous UUID: 61EFC218-0349-410D-AFF9-7DF74A7C63EE

Exception Type: EXC BADACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN INVALIDADDRESS at 0x000000008918758b
Crashed Thread: 18

Thread 0:
0 com.apple.logic.pro 0x005c6c16 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 5814886
1 com.apple.logic.pro 0x005eaa40 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 5961872
2 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0040520e std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 3973214
3 com.apple.logic.pro 0x00405381 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 3973585
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911532bb _sigtramp + 43
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0xffff0f0f __memcpy + 1903 (cpu_capabilities.h:246)
6 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0003d78d std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 9693
7 com.apple.logic.pro 0x002b94b3 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 2614019
8 com.apple.logic.pro 0x005ea994 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 5961700
9 com.apple.logic.pro 0x005caa6d std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 5830845
10 com.apple.logic.pro 0x002ba83e std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 2619022
11 com.apple.logic.pro 0x001eed04 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 1784660
12 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0062e207 std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 6238295
13 com.apple.Foundation 0x91787483 __NSFireTimer + 147
14 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322f8f5 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 4469
15 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322faa8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
16 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9063b2ac RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283
17 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9063b0c5 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374
18 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9063af39 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 106
19 com.apple.AppKit 0x959b36d5 _DPSNextEvent + 657
20 com.apple.AppKit 0x959b2f88 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128
21 com.apple.AppKit 0x959abf9f -[NSApplication run] + 795
22 com.apple.prokit 0x0110814c NSProApplicationMain + 325
23 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0002aa55 DummyConnection::DummyConnection() + 193

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7266 mach msgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910eea5c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322ee7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322fb04 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x96174d0f TSystemNotificationTask::SystemNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 123
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a96fbb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7266 mach msgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910eea5c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322ee7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322fb04 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x96174e88 TFSEventsNotificationTask::FSEventsNotificationTaskProc(void*) + 216
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a96fbb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a98de3 TSWaitOnCondition + 126
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a77c36 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 202
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a98a60 MPWaitOnQueue + 208
5 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x9617fe6a TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 84
6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a96fbb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e72c6 semaphore timedwait_signaltrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911192af pthread_condwait + 1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9111ab33 pthread cond_timedwait_relativenp + 47
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a77c62 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a98a60 MPWaitOnQueue + 208
5 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x96181db4 TFolderSizeTask::FolderSizeTaskProc(void*) + 104
6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a96fbb PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40145ccf apogeeDriverPlugInMessageQueue::WaitForNextMessageInList() + 57
3 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40145db5 ClientBiDirConnection::HandlePropertyChanges() + 27
4 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40146062 PthreadHandlingPropertyChanges(void*) + 21
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40145794 MessageTX::TXThread() + 118
3 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40145a2e TransmitThread(void*) + 21
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9113674e recvfrom$UNIX2003 + 10
1 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x401465e4 ClientBiDirLocalSocketConnection::ReceiveData(void*, int) + 76
2 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x40144c53 MessageRX::RXThread() + 193
3 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x4014513d ReceiveThread(void*) + 21
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 8:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7266 mach msgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910eea5c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322ee7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322fb04 CFRunLoopRun + 84
4 com.apple.DVCPROHDMuxer 0x4035998f AVS::DestroyAVCDeviceController(AVS::AVCDeviceController*) + 317
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7266 mach msgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910eea5c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322ee7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322faa8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x904e55f8 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x904e5480 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 10:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x92bb3b32 glvmDoWork + 162
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 11:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911366fa select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 12:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.ColorSync 0x944693f8 pthreadSemaphoreWait(t_pthreadSemaphore*) + 42
3 com.apple.ColorSync 0x9447bd4e CMMConvTask(void*) + 54
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 13:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x02c2b328 ResolveFile + 54808
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x02c2b3f1 ResolveFile + 55009
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 14:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118dcd pthread condwait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x02c2b328 ResolveFile + 54808
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAFiles 0x02c2b3f1 ResolveFile + 55009
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 15:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee44e _semwaitsignal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910ee216 usleep$UNIX2003 + 61
2 com.apple.AppKit 0x95a19bf1 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 2042
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x91752dfd -[NSThread main] + 45
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x917529a4 _NSThread__main_ + 308
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 16:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e7266 mach msgtrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910eea5c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x01470f0f XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101
3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x01463477 MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 111
4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x0146707d XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x014719ee CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 17:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910e72c6 semaphore timedwait_signaltrap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911192af pthread_condwait + 1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9111ab33 pthread cond_timedwait_relativenp + 47
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a77c62 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90a77a42 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 422
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90aa8944 TimerThread + 74
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 18 Crashed:
0 libobjc.A.dylib 0x9095668c objc_msgSend + 28
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322b0b1 CFRunLoopCopyAllModes + 65
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9322b19f _CFRunLoop1 + 143
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x931c802d __CFFinalizeThreadData + 45
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9111b013 pthread_tsdcleanup + 163
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9111abb5 pthreadexit + 98
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x91757e92 +[NSThread exit] + 18
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x917529bc _NSThread__main_ + 332
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118155 pthreadstart + 321
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91118012 thread_start + 34

Thread 18 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x4c341400 ebx: 0x9323334e ecx: 0x90982800 edx: 0x922db0fc
edi: 0x8918758b esi: 0x4c341400 ebp: 0xb07d1c38 esp: 0xb07d1c14
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010206 eip: 0x9095668c cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x8918758b

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Jul 11, 2010 3:21 PM in response to 45rpm

45RPM you're right on target.

Creating a new user account makes Logic rescan all the plugins. This time it said something was detected as incompatible. BFD couldn't find its libraries, nor could NI Acoustic Piano and Electric Piano (both of which were discontinued from the Komplete package pre Leopard).

And it then seems to run just fine.

My guess is it's a problem with NI. My quest continues.

How do you run that AU utility?

Thanks much. You're a genius.

Doug

Jul 11, 2010 3:40 PM in response to Dsypeck

Creating a new user account makes Logic rescan all the plugins.


Correct. That's because it can't find this file:

Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/Caches/com.apple.audiounits.cache

So strictly speaking, you can force Logic to rescan the plugins just by trashing that file, without creating a new user account. However, there are various other troubleshooting benefits to creating a new user account, so it might continue to play a role in what you're doing.

I think you should see what happens if you trash that file in your regular user account. It's possible that you have more than one problem, and that step might help clarify the picture. It's also possible this step will completely solve your problems.

BFD couldn't find its libraries, nor could NI Acoustic Piano and Electric Piano (both of which were discontinued from the Komplete package pre Leopard).


We have to be careful about interpreting these various observations, because not all of them are necessarily helpful or meaningful. For example, this business about not finding libraries probably just means that the plugin stores the library path somewhere in the user account. So running the new user account is a lot like running with the plugin not being properly installed, in some cases. Which could be a good thing, because it could result in the plugin refusing to load, and maybe this is why Logic was able to run just fine. Or maybe not. You don't really know yet. Different plugins behave differently, so you need to continue this process, to learn more about which ingredients are having which effects.

How do you run that AU utility?


What AU utility? I didn't mention one. Do you mean the Logic AU Manager that iSchwartz mentioned? I think you can get essentially the same effect by moving the items in and out of the plugins folder that I mentioned, and for various reasons I prefer that technique.

Jul 11, 2010 4:25 PM in response to iSchwartz

no need to trash anything AFAICT


It's true that the Logic AU Manager gives you the ability to tell Logic to rescan your plugins, and it's also true that Logic will rescan your plugins if you trash the file I mentioned (com.apple.audiounits.cache). However, I'm not convinced that the former process is fully the equivalent of the latter, with regard to really making sure that there is no damage of any kind lingering anywhere in that file. I prefer to force Logic to write a completely new version of that file.

Jul 11, 2010 5:56 PM in response to 45rpm

I did delete the cache file in my "regular" user account first and that did NOT fix the problem. It did rescan the plugins but it did not report any of the plugins as being old or incompatible, which it did when I created the new user account. Since the new account didn't have all the authorizations set up correctly there were a few things that didn't pass and I had to reset serial number like on the Korg Digital plugs.

Not sure what's up with BFD. It said it couldn't find the library directory. I don't know why, I can see the directory and it's worked fine under Logic 8.

The reason I suspect the NI Acoustic/Electric Piano is a bit complicated. NI phased them out of Komplete right before Snow Leopard, so there have been no patches since last October or November. One of the last patches they did broke the standalone version library locations on my machine. They both run fine as plugins under Logic 8. Since those two instruments are now available are loadable libraries in Kontakt and work as plugins I just never bothered to straighten out the standalones.

But 45rpm, you are absolutely right, that could just be a red herring. Creating the new user account was brill. I didn't think of that one. At least now I have a clean room scenario where it does work. Since that uses the same hardware interface and driver I think I can eliminate the Apogee, which would have seemed to be the most likely "person of interest" as they say on the cop shows.

Any suggestion on what the most efficient way to proceed from here? I could reinstall Komplete 5 on the new account without and then with the pianos and see what happens. It's a bit gory and time consuming, but it might fix the standalone library location problem. I'm about to install the upgrade to Komplete 6 anyway. And just deleting the cache and rescanning didn't seem to fix the issue, so what's happening probably involves some tricky interaction between the plugins and the stored information for that account.

I guess the most radical option since everything is licensed and legit is to back up my data, blow away EVERYTHING, and do a fresh install of Snow Leopard. Then reinstall everything rechecking each item as I install. I know this is a very PC way of thinking, but I cannot count the number of times my Windows machine has just gotten senile from too many updates and I've had to start over from scratch. I was really hoping the Mac wouldn't be like that.

Oh yes, I was referring to the AudioUnit manager. I end up calling everything "that thingie" after a while.

Thanks again for all your help, MUCH appreciated.

Doug

Jul 11, 2010 7:21 PM in response to Dsypeck

I did delete the cache file in my "regular" user account first and that did NOT fix the problem. It did rescan the plugins but it did not report any of the plugins as being old or incompatible, which it did when I created the new user account.


That's interesting. It's not what I would expect, and I can't explain it. At least not yet. Maybe as we go further it will make more sense.

The reason I suspect the NI Acoustic/Electric Piano is a bit complicated.


Right, I'm familiar with that history. On my machine I happen to have Akoustik Piano (the version from a few years ago). It still works pretty well, as a Logic plugin. I say pretty well because if I do certain things in it, it will crash. But mostly it works well, and it definitely doesn't prevent Logic from starting.

Since that uses the same hardware interface and driver I think I can eliminate the Apogee, which would have seemed to be the most likely "person of interest"


Yes, I think you've probably demonstrated that the Apogee is fine. And I think in general their stuff tends to be quite reliable.

I guess the most radical option since everything is licensed and legit is to back up my data, blow away EVERYTHING, and do a fresh install of Snow Leopard.


If I understand correctly, you have a fresh user account that works just fine. If so, then you're already on the right track, and I would say it's definitely overkill to erase the drive.

At this point I would return to the regular account, and empty the plugins folder. Does Logic launch OK now? Now add back the plugins, using the binary technique I described. Unless you've already done something like this? I'm not clear if you have.

Jul 11, 2010 9:29 PM in response to 45rpm

Oh boy.

Working with my "normal" login account.

I deleted all the files from both plugin directories as specified.

I deleted the cache file prompting a rescan.

Create a new empty project. Create a first audio track. Crash.

Actually this time the crash crashed the crash logging. Log follows.

I know starting from scratch is a bit radical and trust me a decision I don't want to make, but as a software developer I would frequently corrupt the windows registry to the point of no return. Microsoft dev support would always respond "just reinstall Windows". No you mean reinstall Windows and every other piece of software I've ever installed on this machine. Ugg. I hate the Windows registry.

I just bought a brand new hard drive for all these updates, so I was considering installing a fresh Snow Leopard on the new external drive, booting from there and installing the apps fresh on that until I run into a problem, rather than erasing the boot. But then of course how do I get that back onto my internal boot drive?

I know I'm starting to babble here, but I've been doing this for the last 12 hours straight. And I'm still fretting over that world cup game (I was rooting for Holland while trying to sit here and fix Logic).

Speaking of stray component files 45rpm do you also use Komplete and or Apogee? The older NI AudioMidi preferences dialog would not list the Apogee driver as an option, only the BuiltIn input/output in standalone mode. With the Leopard updates this was fixed. But half of the programs are still showing the older I think shared dialog with no Apogee option. So Massive,FM8,Kontakt, GuitarRig and Battery are fine, but Absynth, B4, Ac & Elec Piano, Pro-53 and Reaktor are still showing the old dialog. I presume there is some files somewhere that are not correct.




Process: Logic Pro [2213]
Path: /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
Identifier: com.apple.logic.pro
Version: 9.1.1 (1697.53)
Build Info: Logic-16975300~2
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [1921]

Interval Since Last Report: 26214 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 2
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 493 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 2

Date/Time: 2010-07-11 23:27:49.432 -0400
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
Report Version: 6
Anonymous UUID: 61EFC218-0349-410D-AFF9-7DF74A7C63EE

Exception Type: EXC BADACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN PROTECTIONFAILURE at 0x0000000000000118
Crashed Thread: Unknown

Error Formulating Crash Report:
* -[NSCFDictionary setObject:forKey:]: attempt to insert nil value (key: VMUSignaturePath)
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Jul 11, 2010 10:05 PM in response to Dsypeck

do you also use Komplete and or Apogee?


The former, not the latter.

half of the programs are still showing the older I think shared dialog with no Apogee option


Since you emptied the plugins folder, the NI stuff is out of the picture, so don't worry about that issue right now.

I know starting from scratch is a bit radical…. No you mean reinstall Windows and every other piece of software I've ever installed on this machine.


Sometimes starting from scratch is a good idea, even on a Mac, but I don't think it's the right thing, in your case. I think it's not just unnecessary, but actually counterproductive. And you put your finger on the reason why. We're at a point where I think we have a good chance of identifying the troublemaker. If you erase and start over, there's a good chance you will unwittingly install him again, and then you'll be right back where you started.

Here are some other things to check that we haven't talked about yet. One is a very simple thing that I should have mentioned earlier. Try a fresh Logic preferences file. Find this file:

Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/com.apple.logic.pro.plist

Move it to the desktop. Quit Logic. Relaunch Logic. Same problem?

I know we said we don't suspect the Apogee, but let's simplify things for now and disconnect all FireWire devices, including the Apogee. When you start Logic with that fresh preferences file, by default you will be running with built-in audio. Just leave it that way, at least at first, to see what happens.

A few other things to check. These folders probably don't exist. But if they do, we're interested in their contents:

Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/LaunchAgents
Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/LaunchDaemons
Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/StartupItems

Also check here:

Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/Application Support/Propellerhead Software/ReWire/

Anything in there?

Also see if you have these items:

Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/Caches/Logic
Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/Caches/com.apple.logic.pro

That last item is a folder, even though the name looks like a file name. For these two items, if you have either or both just trash them.

Also, I know you ran Disk Utility Repair Permissions, but you should also run Verify Disk (in Disk Utility).

Jul 11, 2010 10:20 PM in response to Dsypeck

I just bought a brand new hard drive for all these updates, so I was considering installing a fresh Snow Leopard on the new external drive, booting from there and installing the apps fresh on that until I run into a problem, rather than erasing the boot.


Oops, I forgot to respond to this part.

Yes, that's a good idea. You're using 10.5 now, but I like 10.6. Putting 10.6 on the external would be an easy way for you to explore it. Also, you don't need to erase that drive before you install an OS. As long as there is no prior installed OS, you will end up with a nice clean OS installation, despite the presence of other items on the drive.

So if you're inclined to do that, it makes sense to install the OS on your external drive. And this is something you can do in parallel with the other testing we've talked about. And even if we find a solution some other way, I think it's always a good idea to have an external drive with a bootable OS. It's useful for future troubleshooting, and great insurance in an emergency. So I would recommend that you create such a thing, even if you weren't reporting any problems.

But then of course how do I get that back onto my internal boot drive?


An excellent tool for that purpose is Carbon Copy Cloner. But you're not at that point yet, and I think you probably won't reach that point.

Jul 12, 2010 2:32 PM in response to Dsypeck

I finally had to give up last night, but I'm back at it again today.

The good news, I'm learning a lot about the inner workings of the Mac and Logic.
The bad news, it's still not working.

I've disconnected everything. No MIDI, no Apogee, just vanilla built in audio. Still crashes.

I removed the preferences file Macintosh HD/Users/YourUserName/Library/Preferences/com.apple.logic.pro.plist
still no luck.

There is a file in the rewire directory: rewire.bundle dated 12/18/08 6:10 AM 1MB Bundle file. Should I try deleting this too? I know I've had problems with out of date rewire files in the past (on the PC though).

I'm onto the other cache files next. Trying to do this one step at a time.

The really good news is that despite the application crashes the Mac OS has not gone down yet. I used to have hard OS crashes on Windows constantly. This is an improvement.

Thanks again for all the help 45.

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