How to migrate to SSD drive using Disk Utility and ending up with APFS file system on SSD...

Hello All,


I am in the process of trying to get my internal drive upgraded to an SSD on my Mac Mini 2012. The internal drive is Mac OS Extended format running High-Sierra. I would like to be able to clone this drive to an SSD using the APFS file system, but this has proved difficult, as when I converted my the drive to APFS, the SSD was no longer bootable. I also tried restoring from a Time Machine backup to the SSD hoping that the process would convert the drive over to APFS but when I checked, it retained the same file system as Mac OS Extended.


Should I perform a clean OS install on the SSD and then restore from my Time Machine backup? To add, the SSD drive is currently connected externally to my Mac Mini via a USB to SATA cable. The idea being, that I perform the cloning to the external drive and get it in the correct state with APFS before I perform the physical swap.


I would appreciate any guidance/steps on the correct method to get to the desired end goal of an SSD drive with restored data from my internal drive running the APFS file system.


Thanks in advance!


Cheers,

Vin.

Mac mini, 10.13

Posted on Feb 16, 2019 2:20 PM

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Posted on Feb 17, 2019 9:16 AM

Mac Mini 2012. The internal drive is Mac OS Extended format running High-Sierra. I would like to be able to clone this drive to an SSD using the APFS file system, but this has proved difficult,


I would format the new drive as Guid/Extended Journeled. There have been issues trying to format external drive as GUID/apfs


Once you clone your High Sierra to the new SSD and verify it is bootable


Install it. Boot into Recovery (command R) Use the Disk Utiltity>Edit>Convert to APFS


This happens on the fly, it is very fast and painless conversion.



Recovery http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718




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Feb 17, 2019 9:16 AM in response to Vincenzo Baldacchino

Mac Mini 2012. The internal drive is Mac OS Extended format running High-Sierra. I would like to be able to clone this drive to an SSD using the APFS file system, but this has proved difficult,


I would format the new drive as Guid/Extended Journeled. There have been issues trying to format external drive as GUID/apfs


Once you clone your High Sierra to the new SSD and verify it is bootable


Install it. Boot into Recovery (command R) Use the Disk Utiltity>Edit>Convert to APFS


This happens on the fly, it is very fast and painless conversion.



Recovery http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718




Feb 17, 2019 9:46 AM in response to Vincenzo Baldacchino

Thank You. Is the trick here to install the SSD into the Mac Mini onto the SATA bus before performing the 'Convert to APFS' or should I be able to boot into recovery and convert the drive while attached externally via the USB to SATA cable?

The reason I ask, is I tried the latter and when I converted to APFS, the SSD drive 'Macintosh HD' partition was no longer visible and when I looked at the SSD through Disk Utility, it showed as no longer being a bootable drive.


Once you clone your High Sierra to the new SSD and verify it is bootable.


Install it in the Mac. Once again verify it is bootable.


Shut down, reboot to Recovery. Do the conversion to apfs.

Feb 17, 2019 5:34 PM in response to Vincenzo Baldacchino

and then simply converting it to APFS like you had kindly suggested. Doesn't seem to work...


I did specified above— to verify the external clone was bootable. Then Install it internally, and verify the boot and then at that time you are good to go forward with convert to apfs.


I am not sure why you are so resistant to this standard protocol. You would have saved yourself a lot of the headache. You are making much harder than it has to be.


I would throw it in the internal bay, I suspect you will be fine. Testing as you go just verifies everything is working as expected so you do not have to backwards.

Feb 17, 2019 1:55 PM in response to leroydouglas

Thanks again.


I cloned the drive and verified it was bootable using the HFS+ Extended Journaled. I then went into Recovery and unmounted the MacintoshHD SSD partition and was able to then perform the convert to APFS. I ran that and it went through with no errors. I then tried to boot from the SSD drive (attached externally via USB to SATA cable) and I can no longer boot from the MacintoshHS SSD partition. :(


At this point, I am going to go with performing a clean High Sierra install on the SDD and then perform a migration from the internal HDD drive for the data, apps, configs restore. This is how Apple recommended I get around this issue having just been on a chat with them although TBH, I thought it would be as simple as cloning the drive and then simply converting it to APFS like you had kindly suggested. Doesn't seem to work...


Cheers,

Vin.

Feb 17, 2019 6:14 AM in response to BDAqua

Thanks BDAqua.


I believe even if I use Carbon Copy or any other imaging tool, I would still end up with an exact clone running HFS+ extended.


Can you please expand on “by letting the OS handle once bootable and internal” - I know when I boot from the SSD after cloning attached externally, that it remains in HFS+ format - are you suggesting that by swapping the drives and putting it internal on the SATA bus will convert to APFS?


Cheers,

vin.

Feb 17, 2019 9:26 AM in response to leroydouglas

Thank You. Is the trick here to install the SSD into the Mac Mini onto the SATA bus before performing the 'Convert to APFS' or should I be able to boot into recovery and convert the drive while attached externally via the USB to SATA cable?


The reason I ask, is I tried the latter and when I converted to APFS, the SSD drive 'Macintosh HD' partition was no longer visible and when I looked at the SSD through Disk Utility, it showed as no longer being a bootable drive.


Appreciate the feedback and advice...


Cheers,

Vin.

Feb 17, 2019 5:37 PM in response to leroydouglas

Sorry, not trying to be resistant but looking to understand why it would behave differently with the drive being internal versus external, which I have not really had a clear explanation on. Not to mention, the 2nd level Apple tech did not advise doing it this way either, which is why I guess I have been a little resistant.


Thanks and will try your method as soon as I get some more time as I have been busy with family all day...

Feb 22, 2019 6:09 PM in response to leroydouglas

Thanks everyone for the feedback and support. Am now running my Crucial SSD in my Mac-Mini and all seems to be good. I had to force the TRIM command as this was not enabled by default, but that is now set and I should be running in optimal mode together with the APFS file system.


Only annoying thing, is that the Mac-Mini takes almost a good minute before the Apple logo appears at boot time, but I have managed to isolate this to my attached Drobo drive - so I just need to ensure its powered off before I boot - however, I can live with it as at least once I am booted, things are running nice and quick - especially after upgrading to Mojave.


Cheers,

Vin.

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