iPhone Upgrading Program - What if I wait 18 months to upgrade??

Hello,


I bought into the iPhone upgrade program a year ago meaning I'm eligible to upgrade to a new iPhone at this point. However, being that the new iPhone will be released more then likely int 5-6 months I'd just prefer to wait. How does this affect my monthly payment since I've technically paid off a larger portion of my current phone at that point? Does it simply lower the monthly payments that I would pay when I sign the new 24 month contract?


Thank you

iPhone X, iOS 12

Posted on Jun 3, 2019 7:42 AM

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Posted on Jun 4, 2019 5:40 AM

When you upgrade, Apple pays off the remainder of your current loan (using the equity of your turned in device to cover that). You then incur a new loan, and unless your upgraded device is a less expensive model than your current one, your monthly payments will go up, not down.


It’s a 24 month 0% loan. One way or another, Citizens one is getting all of their loan back within 2 years - either you pay the full amount (and then outright own the phone) or you give your device back to Apple in exchange for an new one (and a new loan) and Apple pays off the old balance using the trade in to cover that (they’ll recycle or refurbish it).


So you could wait and pay the full loan yourself, then sell your current phone (and pocket that money) and then enter into a new upgrade loan deal with whatever is the latest iPhone.


So, yes, I’d agree that unless you plan to pay the whole loan out of pocket yourself and then sell your current phone yourself, hoping that what you get for it is at least the value of 12 months payments. Or upgrade at 12 months. Of course, if your upgrade is a more expensive device, your monthly payments will go up too.

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Jun 4, 2019 5:40 AM in response to parkej60

When you upgrade, Apple pays off the remainder of your current loan (using the equity of your turned in device to cover that). You then incur a new loan, and unless your upgraded device is a less expensive model than your current one, your monthly payments will go up, not down.


It’s a 24 month 0% loan. One way or another, Citizens one is getting all of their loan back within 2 years - either you pay the full amount (and then outright own the phone) or you give your device back to Apple in exchange for an new one (and a new loan) and Apple pays off the old balance using the trade in to cover that (they’ll recycle or refurbish it).


So you could wait and pay the full loan yourself, then sell your current phone (and pocket that money) and then enter into a new upgrade loan deal with whatever is the latest iPhone.


So, yes, I’d agree that unless you plan to pay the whole loan out of pocket yourself and then sell your current phone yourself, hoping that what you get for it is at least the value of 12 months payments. Or upgrade at 12 months. Of course, if your upgrade is a more expensive device, your monthly payments will go up too.

Jun 4, 2019 6:17 AM in response to parkej60

The value of the loan is just the price of the device divided by 24. Apple gets paid in full by Citizens One at the time of sale. Citizens One then splits the cost of the phone over the term length loan to get 100% of that cost back in 24 months.


Thats how any 0% consumer loan works - you are on the hook for the full loan amount at no interest if paid in full within the terms. The monthly payments don’t change. When you trade up before full terms of the loan are fulfilled, all that happens is that Apple covers the remaining fixed monthly payments using the equity of the traded in device to recoup that for themselves. You then purchase, at full retail price, a new phone and enter into a new 24 month 0% loan for the full price of that new phone.


Apple will always get their full retail price paid in full at the time of sale. And Citizens One is always going to get that full price loan back within the term limits.


A 0% fixed term consumer loan is not different, effectively than a 0% installment payment plan. You’re not getting a break in price with the trade up program since it’s all financed at zero interest. You’re just getting the option to pay over time, and if you choose, to sell your phone back to Apple after 12 months (at effectively a guaranteed evaluation) and have them use the value of that trade in to wipe out your loan.


Other than opportunity cost, if you paid full retail every time, and sold the phone after 12 months for half the cost of a new phone every time, you’d be out of pocket the same as a 24 month 0% loan/installment plan.

Jun 3, 2019 7:54 PM in response to parkej60


Hello parkej60,


Thanks for asking the Apple Support Communities for help with your iPhone Upgrade question.


The iPhone program in the U.S. is financed through Citizens One. This article mentions this: iPhone Upgrade Program - Apple


It links to the full terms here, which mentions: iPhone Upgrade Program Terms & Conditions - Apple


"For questions about your Installment Loan or your application, please contact Citizens One at 1-888-201-6306."


Thanks and have a wonderful day.

Jun 4, 2019 4:17 AM in response to chuck_3rd

While that information is detailed and possibly contains the answer to my question I was unable to locate the scenario described above.


The only thing I found was that apple would pay off the remainder of my loan. But in my scenario that would mean I’m more or less just losing money by upgrading at 18 months instead of 12 months.


This is seems like a very common scenario. I’m not sure why I can’t get a direct answer

Jun 4, 2019 6:01 AM in response to Michael Black

Thank you for your continued support Michael.


I'm still not there though.


So for example if I want to upgrade my device before 12 months I have to pay extra to catch up. But it seems like my monthly payments should be variable based on the amount of months I have paid beyond the 12th month. This might not make sense, but for example. If I paid for 23 months and then decide I want to upgrade it seems as if the monthly payments should be lower on my new loan vs if I decided to upgrade after 12 months? Do you see what I'm trying to get at? If they payments aren't lower it seems as if I'm just out right losing money.

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