What does message 'moving messages' mean?

what does message 'moving messages' mean



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Posted on Aug 2, 2019 2:45 AM

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Posted on Aug 8, 2019 8:24 AM

Moving messages in Mail can be related to the following.


  1. When you have finished writing a new email and click send, apart from the actual process of sending the email via your mail server this also involves 'moving' the email from the 'drafts' folder to the 'sent' folder.
  2. When you delete and email this similarly involves actually moving the email from e.g. your Inbox to the 'trash' folder
  3. When moving message(s) often multiple ones at the same time from your Inbox to another folder aka mailbox for filing purposes this of course also involves moving messages
  4. If you have turned on the built-in spam filter in Mail it will optionally move messages from your Inbox to the 'Junk' folder.


Remember also that you may have setup 'rules' in Mail to automate some of these tasks - particularly number 3 above.


(A smart mailbox does not involve moving messages.)

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Aug 8, 2019 8:24 AM in response to brianfromtring

Moving messages in Mail can be related to the following.


  1. When you have finished writing a new email and click send, apart from the actual process of sending the email via your mail server this also involves 'moving' the email from the 'drafts' folder to the 'sent' folder.
  2. When you delete and email this similarly involves actually moving the email from e.g. your Inbox to the 'trash' folder
  3. When moving message(s) often multiple ones at the same time from your Inbox to another folder aka mailbox for filing purposes this of course also involves moving messages
  4. If you have turned on the built-in spam filter in Mail it will optionally move messages from your Inbox to the 'Junk' folder.


Remember also that you may have setup 'rules' in Mail to automate some of these tasks - particularly number 3 above.


(A smart mailbox does not involve moving messages.)

Aug 9, 2019 1:46 PM in response to brianfromtring

Hmmm, good work, I think you're onto something, the flags & unread thing makes me think it's spotlight, since those are both Smart Folders...


How to rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac

If searching your Mac doesn’t return expected results, rebuilding the Spotlight index might help.


1. Choose Apple menu () > System Preferences, then click Spotlight.

2. Click the Privacy tab.

3. Drag the folder or disk that you want to index again to the list of locations that Spotlight is prevented from searching. Or click the Add (+) button and select the folder or disk to add.
To add an item to the Privacy tab, you must have ownership permissions for that item. To learn about permissions, choose Help from the Finder menu bar, then search for “permissions.”

4. From the same list of locations, select the folder or disk that you just added. Then click the Remove (–) button to remove it from the list.

5. Quit System Preferences. Spotlight will reindex the contents of the folder or disk.


Manually Rebuilding Spotlight via Terminal

If the aforementioned Spotlight control panel approach doesn’t spur a reindexation of the drive, you may need to initiate it manually through the command line. Open Terminal and use the following command string to do so:


sudo mdutil -E /

This basically asks for temporary super user status, which is why Terminal may ask you for your password (it may not if you’ve used a sudo command recently or are already logged in as a super user or root. The command asks the unix tool mdutil to reindex the spotlight database for everything on the computer, including external drives, mounted disk images, etc. To re-index only for a specific drive, use the /Volumes path. For example, for an external drive named “MiniMe,” the command would look like this:


sudo mdutil -i on /


Rebuilding a drive index can take a long time, so be prepared to wait whether you do it through the System Preference panel or the command line.

Aug 9, 2019 1:37 PM in response to brianfromtring

I have some further information which may point to the causes of the 'Moving Messages' message.


Earlier I said that I had a message 'Moving Messages 11 of 105'. When I looked at the numbers of emails in various folders I found that I had 108 flagged emails - suspiciously close to 105. I selected all the flagged messages and 'cleared the flags'. After stopping and re-starting Mail this then left me with another message ' . . . 1 of 39'.


This 39 was the rough total of all the unread emails in all my folders, so I 'read' all those emails, and restarted Mail again. The message is now stuck on '. . . 1 of 39' and has been stuck on that for some minutes. Perhaps I'm getting somewhere although I don't understand why ! I will see what happens when I restart the computer tomorrow.

Aug 5, 2019 10:03 AM in response to BDAqua

Hello

Sorry for delayed response. I am getting no error message. It appears to run slowly but continuously, or certainly for hours at a time. I checked for Rules, and found only one inactive one - 'News from Apple' which I have removed. This has made no difference. I have four Smart Mailboxes, which appear to have sensible selection criteria.


Could you please explain what you mean by a 'failing folder' ?

Thanks for your help

Brian

Aug 9, 2019 12:32 PM in response to John Lockwood

Hello John

Thank you for your suggestions on the possible causes of the 'Moving Messages' error messages. However I think the numbers involved seem not to fit any of the suggestions. For example I am currently seeing 'Moving Messages 11 of 105'. This process starts up every time I fire up the computer and runs for hours. The number indexes up very slowly - perhaps taking 2 or 3 minutes for it to change from '11' to '12'. I typically get or send 5 to 10 emails a day so this does not align with '105'.


In answer to item 4 I doubt whether I get 5 Junk emails a week.


I have no Rules set at all.

Kind regards

Brian

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