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First aid Error

Hello,

I have posted this thread in the German community but no-one seems to know something about my issue.

So, i was running first aid and everything seemed fine and then I ran it a second Time, just for clarification. Then this popped up:

Which overall says ''First aid found some errors, that have to be repaired. Start up first aid from restoring, to repair your start volume''

and in the details window it says: First aid on 'Macintosh HD (disk1s1) is running' 'ATTENTION: First aid might lock the startup for a short period of time' and 'System is checked' , 'operation successful'.

But now im left with my Mac telling me, that there are errors, but in the detail window it says the everything is fine. I even started my macbook and ran first aid there and everything seemed okay. then I did it again like in the screenshot and everything was finde and with the second try directly afterwards the same message popped up like in the screenshot.

But when I restart my MacBook Pro and redo the first aid run everything is fine with the green check-box, but If I run it a second time than this happens.

My MacBook Pro is only 4 Months old btw (2017 non-tauchbar 13'' Base Model)


Anyone knows what to do or has similar problems ? Or would anyone run first aid two times and tell me if they have the same message pop up after the second time ?

Posted on Aug 6, 2019 9:27 AM

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Posted on Aug 6, 2019 9:31 AM

I've had a few drives where it said there were errors that were repaired, but it said the same errors were there when I ran first aid again.


Can't be sure what's going on, but it might make sense to back up your drive just in case.

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Aug 6, 2019 9:31 AM in response to Marceltam

I've had a few drives where it said there were errors that were repaired, but it said the same errors were there when I ran first aid again.


Can't be sure what's going on, but it might make sense to back up your drive just in case.

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Aug 6, 2019 2:24 PM in response to Marceltam

I've seen multiple posts on these forums with this complaint and no resolution. The APFS file system is new and I think Apple is still working out the bugs. Disk Utility has never been great at repairing file systems in the past anyway. Unfortunately Apple has not released the necessary APFS documentation so that third parties can update their file system repair utilities to work with APFS volumes.


If you are not having any issues, then this could just be a Disk Utility bug, but I would definitely follow @y_p_w's advice and have good verified working backups just in case. Backups are even more important when using SSDs since an SSD can fail without any warning and data recovery can be difficult to impossible.


Your other option is to make a backup and erase the physical drive and reinstall macOS. Do not erase the "Macintosh HD" volume as that may not be sufficient to get rid of the errors (if they really exist). When in Recovery Mode and within Disk Utility you need to click on "View" and select "Show all devices" so that the physical drive shows up in the left pane of Disk Utility.

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Aug 6, 2019 2:48 PM in response to HWTech

HWTech wrote:
If you are not having any issues, then this could just be a Disk Utility bug, but I would definitely follow @y_p_w's advice and have good verified working backups just in case. Backups are even more important when using SSDs since an SSD can fail without any warning and data recovery can be difficult to impossible.


As someone who has worked in the SSD industry, in general SSDs are more reliable than hard drives because of little chance of mechanical failure. Flash storage (especially tri-level NAND is inherently unreliable after enough erases, but that’s why there’s redundant data used to store extra bits to implement error correction. But the thing that has the most potential to kill an SSD is corruption of the lookup table to map wear leveling. I don’t know if maybe APFS has any kind of provision that allows for recovery if the mapping is corrupted. Wear leveling is supposed to be transparent to the interface, so I’m not sure if there’s any way to just read out the raw blocks.


The worst thing that can happen to a hard drive is a mechanical failure, but they can be rebuilt. An electrical failure might require a donor board.


Im just wondering when and if something like the Intel/Micron 3D XPoint technology will take off. There’s been talk that it could be used similar to DRAM, but right now Optane drives are too expensive to replace flash. I was thinking maybe as a front end cache for flash SSDs. Those are supposed to be as reliable as DRAM.

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