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NOT CHARGING - Macbook Pro 2017 Touch Bar - (4 Thunderbold Ports) Not Charging

So I purchased my laptop in January of 2018 and in January 2019 around 5 days before the warranty was about to run out I had an issue with the display where black lines started to appear. Luckily I noticed and toom it to my local Apple Authorized Repair Center and they replaced the whole top case.


Then in June out of nowhere the laptop wouldn't charge and when I took it to the repair center again they said it was an issue with the logic board and that it would have to be replaced (1000$+ repair cost). I left the device for diagnosis. And after about a week they called back and said once removing amd putting it back together the issue was gone.?!! I asked the technician what the problem was and he said he couldn't figure it out.


Then two months later last week(August 2019) the same issue came up. The technician previously said that if the issue arises again that it would be best to replace the logic board.


As it's more than one third of the Original cost and seeing that if I got it replaced the only thing working from the device I bought would be the keyboard (the irony🤦🏽‍♂️).


Have any of you experienced the same issue? The people at the store said sometimes Apple replaces the whole device if it has the same issue multiple times and I would need to contact them myself. (Note: There's no Official Apple Store in my country which is an island so shipping it out or taking it myself would have the same cost)


Has anyone ever received a replacement outside the warranty period? I'm even willing to pay a fair price since it would be worth it to get a new device sonce clearly I received a dud.


Should I go for the replacement?


This issue came up after a year and even after the replacement if it came up again after 3 months I would have to pay for another replacement with the same cost.

MacBook Pro with Touch Bar

Posted on Aug 9, 2019 5:33 AM

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Posted on Aug 15, 2019 4:17 AM

So I sent an email to Tara Bunch and someone from their team contacted me and they basically said what Apple Support said as well. They said that since the AARC(Apple Authorized Repair Center) recommended the board replacement that's what I should do and they can't guarantee it will work but they will give a 3 months warranty for the replaced part.


The real kicker was this. The technician who was working on my laptop said that once he did a resetand confirmed it was an issue with the logic board he put it back together and it worked fine so he ran diagnostics and it said the logic board was fine. But after a couple of hours it wouldn't charge again.


The software didn't say it was an issue with the logic board and the technician isn't allowed to check what component is failing in the board but to replace the whole board. I feel like this is Apple's way of making an extra buck becaise there is no logical reason why an AARC couldn't change a component because it's APPLE AUTHORIZED. Basically both Apple's software and AARC is guessing its an issue with the logic board (which is a manufacturing issue and not because of user error) and they want me to spend another 1000$ to fix it. And right now I don't have that much money to spend on a replacement.


And to people who say this is an isolated incident the day I went to hand in the laptop for the 2nd time two more people came with the same issue in the one hour I was there so this is clearly a design or manufacturing fault.


It's sad to see the quality of Apple products declining and the way they squeeze every buck they can from their consumers.


This incident has left me with great dissapoinent and a 2500$ paperweight. Hopefully a thrid party repair center who does chip level repairs will be able to fix this.


~ I am going to set this response as the solution so other people who have the same issue might see this and God Forbid won't buy this generation of Macbook ~

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Aug 15, 2019 4:17 AM in response to ChandiraG

So I sent an email to Tara Bunch and someone from their team contacted me and they basically said what Apple Support said as well. They said that since the AARC(Apple Authorized Repair Center) recommended the board replacement that's what I should do and they can't guarantee it will work but they will give a 3 months warranty for the replaced part.


The real kicker was this. The technician who was working on my laptop said that once he did a resetand confirmed it was an issue with the logic board he put it back together and it worked fine so he ran diagnostics and it said the logic board was fine. But after a couple of hours it wouldn't charge again.


The software didn't say it was an issue with the logic board and the technician isn't allowed to check what component is failing in the board but to replace the whole board. I feel like this is Apple's way of making an extra buck becaise there is no logical reason why an AARC couldn't change a component because it's APPLE AUTHORIZED. Basically both Apple's software and AARC is guessing its an issue with the logic board (which is a manufacturing issue and not because of user error) and they want me to spend another 1000$ to fix it. And right now I don't have that much money to spend on a replacement.


And to people who say this is an isolated incident the day I went to hand in the laptop for the 2nd time two more people came with the same issue in the one hour I was there so this is clearly a design or manufacturing fault.


It's sad to see the quality of Apple products declining and the way they squeeze every buck they can from their consumers.


This incident has left me with great dissapoinent and a 2500$ paperweight. Hopefully a thrid party repair center who does chip level repairs will be able to fix this.


~ I am going to set this response as the solution so other people who have the same issue might see this and God Forbid won't buy this generation of Macbook ~

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Aug 9, 2019 6:11 AM in response to ChandiraG

Hey Chandira,

I have the same model (also out of warranty) and the battery has also recently stopped charging. For me, there are slightly different symptoms as well (wouldn't turn on, fans on full blast, one USB-C port not recognised), but having read your post, and some others, I think I may have a logic board problem as well. This is absurd because they are extremely expensive laptops, and are still very new.


It's a shame that there's no Official Apple store in your country. I have a hunch that Official Apple stores are able to be more lenient with replacements/waiving costs... I've had some positive experiences with Apple & the Genius bar in the past - I had an older MacBook Pro which had thunderbolt ports that weren't working, but it was within warranty so they gave me a new one on the spot. A year or so ago, Apple also replaced an old iPhone 6 that was definitely out of warranty with a newer version for a pretty low price (~ 20AUD or something).


Have you tried calling Apple support? I've heard somewhere that you can file a claim for reimbursement of repair costs.. but it might help to talk to someone as well. Sorry, I don't have that much more advice, but just wanted you to know you're not on your own!

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Aug 9, 2019 8:52 AM in response to wistf

Hi wistf,


Unfortunately there's no telephone support for my country either. I've chatted with apple support staff online and they say I would have to get rhe replacement board.


Just as I was handing in my laptop a couple of more people came with the exact same issue. Lately their support has been lacking. I heard they have removed the Genius Bar as well. They seem to be making quite a profit out of replacement parts since the technician I showed my notebook to said that even though they would like to repair boards they're prohibited from doing so and are required to recommend replacing every part. (And the way they are designed helps too.)


You want to replace the battery you have to replace the entire bottom case. Want to replace the display cable have to change the entire display. Logic Board issue have to replace the whole thing.


Pretty sure I received a lemon. Hoping for a solution from Apple. If not I'm currently looking into consumer protection laws in my country might take action if notjing works.





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Aug 9, 2019 7:07 PM in response to ChandiraG

Does the charging issue occur with all of the other USB-C ports or just the one (or two)?


Was the repair center an Apple Authorized Service Provider?


Was the repair center able to reproduce the charging issue when you took it to them the first time?


Did they check and test your power adapter and USB-C charging cord?

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Aug 9, 2019 7:13 PM in response to HWTech

It occurs with all ports.


Yes it was an Authorized Service Center.( Check originl post)


Once it stopped charging I took it to the repair center. They did not why it happened. The issue was temporarily gone when they took it apart and put it back together. I dont k ow what you mean by reproducing the issue. Please elaborate.


Yes. I checked the cord as well as the repair center.


I also did an SMC reset and all the other stuff in the support article before handing it in for reapir.

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Aug 9, 2019 9:56 PM in response to ChandiraG

ChandiraG wrote:

I dont k ow what you mean by reproducing the issue. Please elaborate.


I was just curious if the repair center actually saw the problem occurring.


Since the issue occurs with all four ports, then that would mean either the Logic Board or the Battery is defective assuming the repair center used their own power adapter to test the system. I would tend to agree with the repair center that the Logic Board is the most likely culprit. It is a gamble though. It is unfortunate that it can take months to reproduce the issue. These are always tricky and frustrating situations for both technicians and users alike especially when the system is out of warranty.

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Aug 9, 2019 10:43 PM in response to HWTech

The technician told me that if a Charging issue came up with only two ports (specifically on the left side of the device) they would be able to replace one component and not the entire board and it would be fixed. Since all four ports are not drawing power ( However I am able to connect peripherals which means the ports can't draw power but could provide power)

it must be an issue with the logic board.


I asked if it was an issue with the battery and he said if it was it would show up in ths task bar saying 'Service Battery'.


I am doubtful if it is an issue with the board and do not want to shell out for the replacement unless I'm certain about what is causing the issue.

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Aug 10, 2019 2:08 PM in response to ChandiraG

Unfortunately there is no way to be 100% certain for an issue which can take months to reproduce again. I believe if the battery was defective that the Apple diagnostic would most likely report it. Two things point towards a Logic Board issue due to the information obtained from the previous repair attempt and the temporary fix:


1) The battery was disconnected from the Logic Board basically providing a super SMC reset to the Logic Board allowing the problem to dissipate along with the residual electricity from the circuits.


2) Handling of the board realigned a cracked trace or solder joint temporarily until regular use re-opened the trace or joint since the components do flex with use.


The way the ports work on these laptops is very complex. I've seen a single port not charge the laptop but work perfectly fine in other ways so it is not necessarily as meaningful as you might think.


I grant you it is a gamble either way, but I doubt you will get the necessary assurance unless the problem gets worse which is unlikely unless the system can run using the power adapter. If the system works with the power adapter, then you could keep using the laptop to see if any other symptoms appear or the current symptom gets worse.


Perhaps you could have the repair center disconnect the battery from the Logic Board for a minute or two to see if the system begins charging again once the battery is reconnected. If so, it might lend more credence to the super SMC reset theory and the problem is the Logic Board. If it works, maybe they would allow you to see how long it takes before the problem recurs possibly allowing the issue time to get worse so it would be easier to diagnose.

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Aug 15, 2019 6:14 AM in response to ChandiraG

ChandiraG wrote:

The real kicker was this. The technician who was working on my laptop said that once he did a resetand confirmed it was an issue with the logic board he put it back together and it worked fine so he ran diagnostics and it said the logic board was fine. But after a couple of hours it wouldn't charge again.

This happens more than you can imagine with all sorts of computers and other electronics. It makes troubleshooting and diagnosing equipment difficult, frustrating, and time consuming.


The software didn't say it was an issue with the logic board

Probably 80% of the time the diagnostics won't report a failure. There is only so much a software diagnostic can test.


and the technician isn't allowed to check what component is failing in the board but to replace the whole board. I feel like this is Apple's way of making an extra buck becaise there is no logical reason why an AARC couldn't change a component because it's APPLE AUTHORIZED. Basically both Apple's software and AARC is guessing its an issue with the logic board (which is a manufacturing issue and not because of user error) and they want me to spend another 1000$ to fix it. And right now I don't have that much money to spend on a replacement.

No current computer manufacturer (or any manufacturer of high end electronics) has a local technician replace individual components on a Logic Board these days. All local repairs are just board swaps and it has been this way for the last 20 years. The boards are sent to back to the manufacturer who has specialized equipment and detailed schematics to troubleshoot the boards at a component level and must perform extensive validation of the board before it can be used in another unit. It is a very specialized skill set involved. There are some independent non-Apple repair shops that do specialize in repairing individual boards which I'm sure is not cheap either.

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Aug 15, 2019 6:29 AM in response to HWTech

Have to disagree. I have owned both HP and Dell laptops in the past. Had an issue with the HP one and they repaired the board although they did have to bring in the necessary components from HP since it was an authorized dealership.


Personally didn't have any issues with the Dell but I've friends who have repaired their boards with Authorized Dealers without fully replacing the board.


It is not a very specialized skillset and Apple's Authorized Technicians not being able to do repairs is either frankly embarrassing or it's a pretty ****** business decision. Since most of the technicians in third party repair shops are self taught I'm guessing Apple does not want you to repair the laptop but pay more money to them to replace it.


On your comment about independent non-Apple repairs, I've already contacted some shops and asked for quotations and guess what, it ACTUALLY IS CHEAPER TO CHANGE COMPONENTS IN THE BOARD THAN THE BOARD ITSELF.



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Aug 26, 2019 6:34 AM in response to ChandiraG

Ugh, that all sounds so frustrating. Someone pointed out to me the other day that a lot of countries (EU countries, Australia) have consumer law protection for electronic products for two years. Do you know if your country has that? If so, that should outrank Apple's warranty.

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NOT CHARGING - Macbook Pro 2017 Touch Bar - (4 Thunderbold Ports) Not Charging

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