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Greek text does not display in Safari

I have a new Mac air. I have studies on the Internet that use Greek characters. Safari transliterates them. I want to have the Greek text. How do I make that happen?

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Posted on Oct 5, 2019 11:28 AM

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PS In case it's of use, here is an example of a web site which uses to the current standard technology for Greek, which you should be able to view without any additions to your system.


https://biblehub.com/interlinear/2_timothy/2-14.htm



Posted on Oct 8, 2019 5:26 PM

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Oct 5, 2019 4:30 PM in response to Gplasterer2

My guess is that your site uses an old legacy font that replaces Latin with Greek. If so, you have to down load that font and then set your browser to use it. Safari won’t work probably, but Firefox has font preference settings.


i recommend you switch to a site that uses the Unicode standard, which almost everyone adopted for Greek many years ago, and doesn’t require anyone to download extra fonts.


But tell us the url of this site so we can check whether our guess is correct.

Oct 6, 2019 5:23 PM in response to Gplasterer2

Gplasterer2 wrote:

I formerly used windows 10 and Microsoft Edge and it displayed.

That's interesting! Windows often still includes a non-standard "Symbol" font that creates Greek when you type Latin. Perhaps that is what your site is using. I do find it strange there is nothing in their "help" that talks about Greek display.


Another thing you could do is look at one of the pages where you see transliterated greek and then do File > Save As and use the Page Source option. Attach the resulting file in an email to me (thgewecke at gmail dot com).

Oct 7, 2019 6:05 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

All right, here is what I found out:

Here is how the text shows on my screen: mnhmoneue from mnhmoneuw), “Remind” (2:14a — upomimnhske from upomimnhskw) and “Do your best” (2:15a — spoudason from spoudazw). Paul implores Timothy to remain mindful that the resurrected Christ is the source of the gospel (v. 8); that Paul has suffered because he proclaims this gospel (v. 9a); that Paul may be imprisoned, but that the “word of God is not chained” (v. 9b); that Paul endures in order to guide others to salvation in Christ (v. 10); and that certain truths and promises follow from this salvation (vv. 11-13).

Here is the response from the Homiletics tech team:

Unfortunately, it sounds like you'll need to do some review of your system - as it's not anything that our program is doing, but a system setting on your local computer that is overriding the website and actually turning the "symbol" font into English.

This is is a link that might be helpful


https://support.apple.com/guide/font-book/install-and-validate-fonts-fntbk1000/mac


Or, you can also google to see how to stop Safari from translating Greek Text. I believe that your system is changing the "Symbol" font to English.


I did look up Font Book and "symbol" is installed, if I read it right.


I remain puzzled.


Oct 7, 2019 7:52 PM in response to Gplasterer2

It's unfortunate if your service uses the math Symbol font to represent Greek text. This is both antiquated (most everyone uses proper Unicode fonts now) and not very professional, since this font cannot represent the diacritics in the Greek of the actual text, such as shown below:



Apple only supports Unicode out of the box, and their Symbol font is different than the Windows stuff your service expects. Here is a place where you can download the Windows Symbol font. Install it and see if it works. You may have better luck using Firefox than Safari.


http://hawaii.hawaii.edu/math/Courses/Math100/Chapter0/FAQ/WinFont.htm



Oct 12, 2019 4:14 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

Sir, just to follow up, I did share your message with Homiletics technical staff. Here was their reply:


This is immensely helpful feedback. Thank you so very much for taking the time to both reach out to Apple, and to forward the response on to us.


I'll forward this on to the team who posts the weekly updates to see if there is something we can switch on our end. I'm not sure, because I know our Homiletics system has been around for a good long while and some things are a bit outdated, which we've been slowly converting over time.


Thanks again!


Of course, no guarantees, but your response has been very helpful to me as well. The unicode standard to which you refer seems like the direction to go when using Greek text.


Sincerely,

George Plasterer



Greek text does not display in Safari

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