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Import iTunes library into clean installation of Catalina

Hullo all, hope you can help:


  • I backed up my iTunes library (the entire "iTunes" folder—contains about 95GB of music ripped from my CDs) on an external hard disk.
  • I installed Catalina on a newly reformatted hard disk on my iMac.
  • I copied the backed up iTunes library into ~/Music (Home folder → Music).
  • I launched the Music app. It showed my handful of iTunes purchases, but not my playlists nor the music I had ripped from CDs. 🤔


Clearly, my iTunes library was not upgraded at that point. The Music app was just seeing the music associated with my iCloud account. Second try:


  • I quit and I deleted the new "Music" folder that was created (~/Music/Music).
  • I launched the Music app holding down option. It asked me the choose a music Library and pointed it to the "iTunes Library.itl" file (~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Library.itl).
  • The Music app launched. Again, only my iTunes purchases appeared, no playlists. 😢


Any idea how I can get the Music app to upgrade and see my older iTunes music library? There are plenty of playlists, ratings, play counts, album artwork from rare CDs that I scanned myself, even some digitised vinyl. This process has worked with previous OS updates, so I would expect my backed up iTunes library should somehow be able to be imported.


Any thoughts?

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Posted on Oct 14, 2019 1:29 PM

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Posted on Nov 13, 2019 1:31 AM

For anyone who still has this issue, I have a partial solution.


In the Music app, go to File → Library → Import Playlist… then navigate to your old iTunes folder and select the iTunes Music Library.xml file. Music will take a while (maybe half an hour, maybe one hour for my library of about 15,000 tracks—I went for lunch), but it will import all your music and playlists, including smart playlists. At least it did in my case after every other method had failed. Ratings and most other metadata was imported as well.


⚠️ Be careful—this is not a perfect solution:

  • It changes the “date added” information for every track to the time when you do the import. This may have implications to you if you are using that date to make smart playlists.
  • In my case it lost some of the artwork. From what I can tell, all of the artwork that I had scanned and pasted myself is present. My guess is that the lost artwork came from the iTunes Store by me selecting “get album artwork” in the past.
  • This method will also import any podcasts as songs. You can sort your music by genre to easily select and delete all the podcasts. Then sort by duration and scan everything that has “continuous” as duration. This will include old radio channels and podcast subscriptions as far as I can tell. You may need to delete those as well. You should be able to redownload those from the Podcasts app.


Hopefully, this is helpful to someone. It's a good enough solution for me for the moment.


(@turingtest2 You may need to include some of this in one of your guides.)

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Feb 11, 2020 1:55 AM in response to Orestes Chouchoulas

Hi all,


Thanks for all the given solutions, i just upgraded to Catalina and ran into the same problems discussed here.

I will soon implement the solutions, but i also discovered another issue and i wonder if you experience this too, but maybe this wil work after implementing the solutions you given.

The "help" of Music app says you can simply drag and drop new music files into the opened windows of the music app, but when i drag a music file from my desktop to the opened music app, nothing happens, you can see the file is returning to the desktop.

So it seems that drag and drop of music files is also not working?



Feb 13, 2020 11:51 AM in response to MacMarwil

I actually melted the old iTunes and the new Music library already. I also got completely rid of the iTunes Folder,

so all the Music is in the new "music" Folder now.


I did it just as described above: I went into the iTunes Folder and just dragged the "iTunes Media" (containing all the Music Files) and dropped it in the music app (notice the red mark in the picture above in the left sidebar).


The whole Library was doubled, which took quite some time, since in my case it was more than 300GB...

After that, I checked the Path of the files in the music.app and they all referred to the new place (music Folder).

All the data remained, so for example tracks I added to my library back in 2008 still had the same Date under "Date added".


The only bizarre thing was, that the remaining space, that the ssd showed (410GB of 1000GB) didn't add up with the doubled

library, although both libraries had the same size when I opened up the Preferences of each of them... - In other words I should've had less space left on the ssd than Catalina would try to make me believe... This might be an individual problem that could be addressed to my ssd swap, or something else like a Catalina bug?!


Haven't experienced any other Problems so far since deleting the iTunes Folder... so it seems to be all good =)


Feb 13, 2020 12:06 PM in response to unusualroutine

This confuses me, though.

Doesn’t it mean you doubled all your music files twice?

First by creating a new library (as described in your solution path further above under 4./5.: “… will take some time …”), second by dropping the “iTunes Media” folder onto the Music Mediathek on the app’s GUI (as shown in your picture above: “… which took quite some time …”)?

Feb 13, 2020 9:35 PM in response to MacMarwil

So now - in the last step we melt the Libraries -


take the „iTunes Media“ Folder within the iTunes Folder and drop it in the sidebar of the itunes GUI 🙂.


it now takes a while (and your music Files will be doubled...)


I probably do not need to mention that a Backup is a wise decision in this case 😀


after the copy process is finished, check in music.app, if all your files are referring to the right folder. Right click on a song, then preferences and then the right tab that says „file“ or similar (the new music path is needed, not the old itunes one 🙂


If everything is right, you can now be brave say goodbye to your beloved good ol’ iTunes library and delete the whole Folder... 😀

Feb 13, 2020 11:49 PM in response to unusualroutine

Thanks, unusualroutine.

This is expansive and well documented.

Two comments:


1) According to your screenshot at step 1 you didn’t move the complete iTunes folder to the Music Folder but NEXT TO the Music folder. It shows clearly that „iTunes“ and „Music“ appear on the same hierarchy.

All other steps afterwards seem clear to me.


2) Your process of “melting” the libraries by dragging the iTunes Media folder onto the Musik GUI “Mediathek” (not the iTunes GUI, as you’ve mistyped ;) …) is a really weird idea (did you find out yourself?) but if it works – well then, I’ll give it a try.

Since my library is almost 500 GB big (and stored externally, too, for a while but this sucks) my steps of migrating my music lib should be well-thought …


Thanks again!

Feb 14, 2020 4:57 AM in response to unusualroutine

Alright, alright.

Seems to work properly — except that I probably won’t be able to double my library on my SSD. I will just run out of space, I guess? At least if there’s happening a real duplication — which I can’t verify yet since there is no new media/music folder been created in “Music” (or elsewhere in the folder “Musik” above of it).

Do you remember how long it took for your 300 GB lib, this activity “Dateien hinzufügen” (adding files) after dropping the iTunes Media folder onto “Musik”s “Mediathek” in the sidebar?

Feb 14, 2020 5:38 AM in response to MacMarwil

(Pre-) Final report:


The step of dropping the iTunes Media folder onto the Musik Mediathek’s sidebar does NOT duplicate any files; it just added a few tunes that hadn’t been organized by the former .itl file.

AND: Adding totally new files doesn’t create a new music/media folder. The app Musik puts new music into my old iTunes Media folder. The newly created “Music” folder only contains the newly created (and active) ”Music Library” file, nothing else.


Unfortunately, if the counter on the bottom of the Musik window doesn’t lie, over 1,000 albums have disappeared.

Possibly there has been a mess of earlier tunes cleaned up (I didn’t care for my iTunes in the first years, it’s only six years that I’m doing an accurate job here) but I can’t tell for the moment.


Otherwise everything seems to run smoothly. Adding date tags have been kept (back to 2008 where a major crash made me add every tune from scratch after running iTunes since 2000).


Next step: Making my DJ software understand the new lib …

Feb 14, 2020 7:53 AM in response to MacMarwil

I could imagine that you could split the „doubling“ process, so for example, all artists from a to l and then after the process is done you delete and repeat with m to z...


alternatively you could convert your library to 128kbps... 😉


I couldn’t handle it mentally to sit next to it during the copy process, but I would guess it took about 2-3 hours from a usb3 hdd on to a 2015 macbook and a Adata XPG SX8200 SSD 🙏🙂


I think with rougly about double the size of your files it should take somewhere around 5-6 hours.


how many files does your library actually count? 🤔



Feb 14, 2020 8:23 AM in response to MacMarwil

quote:

„AND: Adding totally new files doesn’t create a new music/media folder. The app Musik puts new music into my old iTunes Media folder.“


This sounds like you haven‘t changed the music.app media path in the preferences of the software... you can upload a screenshot of your preferences and see what it looks like...


and regarding the dj software - it better is not relying on the .xml file that itunes used to create...

Feb 15, 2020 3:01 AM in response to unusualroutine

Yes, I could convert my lib into 128 kBit/s files. I could chop my hands off, too.


The entire process took about 20 minutes for 42,017 files or 409 GB. (Copying the files beforehand from my external Adata SSD took another 23 minutes.) And, again, AT NO POINT in the process of assigning the old lib to Musik does anything duplicate.


Quote: “This sounds like you haven‘t changed the music.app media path in the preferences of the software


Right. But why should I? The path is correct, it’s working.

I could manually move the iTunes Media folder into the Music folder (while the Musik app is closed) and reassign it after opening Musik. But I’m scared of confusing things and make a mess of a formerly running system …


Last night I relied on the .xml file—and it saved my a**. ;)

Fortunately, it contained my newest data. But I know, it won’t get updated any longer. I need to switch to a software that is able to handle the Music Library file—Mixxx won’t do so, I’m afraid.

Feb 15, 2020 5:00 AM in response to MacMarwil

Since I‘m not so sure if you received it the way I intended it, the 128kbps conversion was supposed to be a joke 🙂


Quote:“

Right. But why should I? The path is correct, it’s working.

I could manually move the iTunes Media folder into the Music folder (while the Musik app is closed) and reassign it after opening Musik. But I’m scared of confusing things and make a mess of a formerly running system …“


You could copy your achievements back to your adata ssd or another external medium, and move it the way you suggested it, but if you‘re pleased the way it is, them there is probably no need to change anything.


I am glad it worked out for you and can only wonder why my „readdition“ created a duplicated library, although I am totally fine with the results 🙂


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