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Proof FCPX 10.4.7 is slower than 10.4.6 and eGPU use worse

Here is proof that the latest update to FCPX is slower than the previous 10.4.6 on my Mac Book Pro with both rendering and playback and shows how the eGPU use is less utilised and slower than in 10.4.6.


My specs:

Macbook Pro 15 Inch Late 2016, 2.9Quad i7, 16GB ram, 2TB SSD, Catalina

eGPU: Radeon vii in Razor Core X


I ran exactly the same test on 10.4.6 and 10.4.7 both with and without eGPU connected

[Playback: 1st playback playing through same rendered & unrended clips

2nd playback down after the first run playing through same rendered & unrended again]


Render two clips from Canon 5DM4 4K:

(1) 10.4.6 without eGPU 3:10min [1st Playback both no lag, 2nd both small lag]

(2) 10.4.6 with eGPU 3:50min [1st both no lag, 2nd no lag]

(3) 10.4.7 with eGPU 4min [1st rendered smooth, un-ren. laggy, 2nd both laggy]

(4) 10.4.7 without eGPU 4min [both no lag, 2nd both laggy]


Render two clips from RED Raw R3d 5K:

(5) 10.4.6 without eGPU 2:55min [1st rendered smooth, un-ren. laggy, 2nd both laggy]

(6) 10.4.6 with eGPU 2:50min [1st rendered smooth, un-ren. laggy, 2nd rendered no lag, un-ren lag]

(7) 10.4.7 with eGPU 3:58min [1st both laggy, 2nd both laggy]

(8) 10.4.7 with eGPU 3:05min [1st rendered smooth, un-ren. laggy, 2nd both laggy]


Findings are clear that FCPX 10.4.6 is faster in both rendering and playback than 10.4.7 and its better WITHOUT an eGPU on both compressed and uncompressed video. The best setup overall was 10.4.6 and no eGPU.



Most interesting is (3) which happens to be the worst overall, which I had expected to be the best. A very powerful eGPU with the latest update of FCP 10.4.7. It doesn't even use the eGPU at all barely!!? I read on this 10.4.7 update how they were advertising improved eGPU use?


If wish this information was available before I bought Final Cut Pro X as I moved from Premiere Pro and bought the eGPU for this specific purpose. So hopefully this helps those considering buying an eGPU to use with their Macbook Pro and FCPX. Final Cut is faster and smoother in playback than Preimere Pro in both compressed video [Canon] and especially with RED footage. Just don't bother with an eGPU at this stage.


Would love for others input and ideas as I'm not much of a tech person, I just needed to know for myself if I had wasted all this money or not on an eGPU. For me the most important thing is playback and secondarily rendering. I don't really care for export as I can always do that overnight if needed. I wanted to be able to edit on MacBook Pro and just plug in eGPU when needed without buying a whole new system. I've read on these forums people saying that playback is more CPU than GPU but my main argument was that 10.4.6 was faster than the old one with playback, and now this proves it with my system.


Please let me know if I've got anything wrong or there or other ways I can speed playback up, or if there is going to be something done in the future to improve this. My guess is that 10.4.7 is built to be faster on the new Mac Pro etc and I'm sure it will be, this information is for those using current systems.

MacBook Pro with Touch Bar

Posted on Oct 14, 2019 8:15 PM

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Jan 24, 2020 12:10 PM in response to da silva

Im telling you man, go back to 10.4.6 and select prefer eGPU and see how FCPX then FULLY uses eGPU, 4.7/4.8 it messes up, your only choice is to go back 4.6 till they fix it, else move on to Premiere/Resolve. And DONT listen to all that "External monitor plugged here plugged there etc etc" BS, this is a real problem against anyone else who says. Also call up FCPX team and tell them, the more of us call the better chance they'll fix it

Jan 24, 2020 12:55 PM in response to andyfromnz

The thing you have to realize is that Apple has suggested using these external eGPU's also for any application besides just gaming. They have a whole page dedicated to which ones work and which graphics cards are supported. I purchased a Radeon Vega 56 and the OWC Mercury Helios FX 650 to hook into my 2017 iMac and it performed very nicely up until 10.4.6. I just purchased the brand new 16" MBP with everything but the HD maxed out (2.4 8-Core, 64GB RAM, Radeon Pro 5500M 8GB card) and the thing screams speed. I haven't tested benchmarks yet between this graphics card and the Vega 56 or 64. But my feeling is that Apple will fix what ever is the problem but who knows when is the main issue.

Jan 25, 2020 4:03 PM in response to crossczechfotoguy

Can you give me a link to where Apple says that?


You macbook pro will not benefit from an eGPU you have 8 GB of video ram, apple developer guidelines say to prefer the discrete gpu because PCI bandwidth is much higher than thunderbolt so it is likely it does not even call it at all except background rendering when you have the screen on.

Your iMac 2017 depending on graphic card will also have no benefits for the same reason above

It is possible that with Open CL the situation was better and now that final cut pro is re-written for metal is worse but there are plenty of independent tests that show that an average discrete gpu performs better than an eGPU on final cut pro in any release which is what the poster of this thread wrote himself.

Jan 26, 2020 1:57 AM in response to da silva

The “commenter” is the one whose coming in this thread (don’t know why since he doesn’t have the same issue we have) and telling you and everyone else the problem is with us not the software. Don’t waste your time just ignore him. Like I said this is a real issue, I went back to 10.4 6 and the issue is gone eGPU is fully working and amazing. Talk to Apple and follow up that’s what we’re all doing ( except for you know who)

Feb 17, 2020 1:28 PM in response to abjacobs

The argument that there is no problem, as one of the commenters on here keeps harping about, ( don't know why he's in this group if he sees no problem) is redundant. Im using 4.6 and it works fine, since I downgraded from 4.7/8 If a judiciary recourse is what it takes then we'll need to do that. I just don't see why Apple doesn't give it the same optional feature they have on the 4.6?

Proof FCPX 10.4.7 is slower than 10.4.6 and eGPU use worse

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