So if the signal drop is caused by the hand physically blocking antennae...

Good Lord.......so if you put a metal piece inside (say a paper clip) the earphone piece on another phone, wouldn't it affect the antenna? So, now people are going to start complaining that they've inserted metal pieces into their iP4 phone and it made the signal drop????? You can't be serious, can you???

It's about signal interruption and absorption. Doesn't matter if it come from metal, your finger or your dogs paw.

The issue DOES exist with ALL smart phones.

So what you suggest will be enough for you, but may not be enough for someone else.

Apple said they will continue testing this and will have another re-evaluation by the end of September.

If you are not happy with what was provided today or you don't agree with it, you can return your iPhone 4 for full payment credit within 30 days of the purchase date.

Geez...

Exactly correct, there are 2 antenna problems. The bumper is just a "band aid" fix for the larger antenna problem.

I don't need to re-read your first post nonsense.

Re-read what I provided - very carefully please.

+*If you are not happy with what was provided today or you don't agree with it, you can return your iPhone 4 for full payment credit within 30 days of the purchase date.*+

RETURN IT.

The facts are very basic:

1. Coming close to an antenna affects its impedance and its signal-carrying characteristics (ie. it can attenuate the signal) because antennas are designed and tuned assuming there are no conducting surfaces near it

2. Obviously, you cannot avoid close proximity to a cell phone antenna

3. Most other phones have the antenna surrounded by the case, so while you can get close, you are not directly contacting it

4. Apple chose to place the bare-metal antennae on the outside, where you your body (composed mostly of conducting H2O) making a direct electrical connection to them

5. To make matters worse, they placed two different antennas (cell and WiFi/BT) very close together - separated by a millimeter. Shorting those antennas is very easy to do. Not a great idea.

6. A case will keep your hands from shorting the gap, and also avoid direct electrical contact. This makes it similar to other smartphones.

So, while having the antenna act as the rim of the case sounds really cool and innovative, from an engineering efficiency standpoint it was a lousy idea.

So no matter what anyone does to you, you will let it happen and not protest?

Nope. I'm not a lover, I'm a fighter, and will gladly go to jail to beat a person's brains in - or lack thereof that needs and deserves it.

Time to stand up for yourself. If this is a real issue, demand it be fixed.

Chuck you. If I had the problem, I would return my iPhone for payment credit.

I just posted evidence that it's a real issue. I challenge you to present a well reasoned argument that refutes my claims.

You didn't post squat. If you have a problem which you don't believe affects any other phone in the smart phone category, RETURN YOUR IPHONE FOR PAYMENT CREDIT. Don't walk, run to receive full payment credit.

Time to stand up for yourself. If you have the problem and keep your iPhone longer than 30 days, you have yourself to blame only.

kre62 wrote:
However, if the case is the hand blocking the antennae, as they want us to believe, then how come the iPhone4's signal problems can be reproduced without even touching the phone?

There are many videos of the phones antennae being shorted with a house key, part of a paper clip, etc, with the users hand nowhere near the phone. In fact, the person could stand 100 yards away and zoom in and see the signal gone with just a staple covering the black line.

Any electrical conductor can detune the antenna. Keys, staples, paper clips will do a better job than dry skin. Learn a bit of basic electricity, or RF theory before speaking about that of which you know little.

Phil

gizzys dad wrote:
It's about signal interruption and absorption. Doesn't matter if it come from metal, your finger or your dogs paw.

It is not about blocking the signal; this is not an anechoic chamber deal. It is about detuning antennas.

Phil

This doesn't change the fact that Apple is incorrect on the antennae issue.

Baloney.

Apple's 18 PHD engineers in this area are incorrect, but you are right.

Please list your credentials in this area.