Mac Pro 1.1 - GTX 670 - El Capitan

Hi Apple Community, I'm evans-dev.

I have a Mac Pro Original 2006 1.1, with 32 GB of RAM, an ATI Radeon HD 4870 (but it's not mine!) and dual Xeon dual-core.

As I said before, the GPU is not mine, so I need to buy a GPU that is compatible with El Capitan and with my Mac Pro. I know, some says that this machine is dead, but it works surprisingly well, and with El Capitan patched for EFI32 this Mac Pro has a new (but short, I know) life.

So here is my question: I found a GTX 670 for 70 euros. I know for sure that it works on a Windows or Linux PC, but it isn't a Mac Edition card, so no bootscreen. With a non-Mac Edition card, can access to the recovery partition? Can I show up the boot menu? Could I flash this card?

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Do you know any other GPU that works natively with El Capitan?


Thanks!

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Posted on Nov 26, 2019 6:38 AM

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Nov 27, 2019 8:25 AM in response to Johnb-one

If you will never be trying to run Mojave, but are running at least 10.6.5 (where their Drivers first appeared) the Apple-Firmware 5770 and 5870 are good cards, and may be available used from folks who replaced them with "Metal-compatible" cards. These are the stock and "upgrade" cards from the Mac Pro 2009.


These are very similar to the 4870 you borrowed. the 5770 requires only one aux power cord, the 5870 requires two like your 4870.


The NVIDIA GT120 was also shipped in the Mac Pro 2009, and is not a high-performance card, but does not require an aux power cord.

Nov 26, 2019 9:11 AM in response to evans_dev

Hello evans-dev...


maybe I can help you. Usually when you install and try to use a non Mac video card in your Mac pro 1,1 you won't see anything until the video drivers load, so if you run into trouble, eg, you need the startup manager or the bootscreen you may be out of luck...... This is an nVidia card, and I know nVidia made a GTX 680 which I think is Mac compatible. The GTX 670 ?maybe


Could you flash this card ? That depends...about the only thing/way I know to flash it so that it'll work on Mac is nVflash which only works on PC's, windows or Dos, I believe. you'd have to check out netkas.org, or send your card in to someone for flashing, or borrow a spare PC for flashing the card-results not guaranteed. checking out xlr8yourmac.com might be fruitful as well.


You have the latest OS that you can get and put on this Mac Pro, which is good, as the later the OS, the better the support for video cards that are unknown. I'm assuming you're on a strict budget and don't want to spend a ton of money to upgrade the video card, just something that works


Yes--I do know a few GPU's that work natively with El Capitan, But.......


the oldest Mac Pro i've worked with was a Mac Pro 3,1, Quad Core. Can't say for sure if a video card which might work in a 3,1 will work in a 1,1... Of course, logic board/PCI-X slot speed is a problem. the Mac Pro original 2006 1,1 might have been speedy for its time, but now no. Due to the age of the machine new parts are very hard to get, and that goes for video cards as well. So, you're probably looking at some used pulls from a working Mac Pro 1,1


I don't know where to look for those, apart from ebay


john b

Nov 27, 2019 8:16 AM in response to evans_dev

You are most welcome, evans_dev.

about the only card I know is the sapphire radeon 7950 mac version

unfortunately it’s pricey... I think El Capitan may have the same requirement

as goes for Sierra- a Metal capable video card. I don’t think the

1900 XT qualifies.


as for installing the nVidia software, all of it, and installing a gtx950 or a 750ti yess.. it should work

you should still check out xlr8yourmac.com just to be safe. They could give you more help then me. Support for them might already be in the OS


john b

Nov 26, 2019 2:58 PM in response to evans_dev

Mmmm....ouch !! I see. Installation is pretty easy. You'd have to shut down your Mac Pro 1.1, disconnect the power cord, flip the latch at the back so that you could remove the side panel. The graphics card should be in the fastest or bottom slot. You'd also have to remove a plate with 2 thumbscrews at the back which holds your graphics card in there. You'd also have to disconnect the two power cables going to the card, Then just pull gently towards you and to the left, as the card has to go in at a slight angle. That's it. To install the card, just reverse the steps I mentioned and there you go. You'd also have to download and install the nVidia Mac driver software, all of it (it's on their website, under Quadro K5000 for some reason) . . I'd suggest seeing if you can find a used but working Mac video card on your local kijiji website, but that's comme-ci-comm-ca...iffy. Gosh, the X1900 XT....might be old but as long as it still works....You might want to give it a good dusting too. before installing it, and don't forget about the button battery behind the video card, it might be a small thing, but if it dies (and it will eventualy) it could cause you problems, especially with startup.


that's all I have to say. jb

Nov 27, 2019 12:22 AM in response to Johnb-one

Thank you again my friend!


Last thing: in the previous post (the first one) you said that you know some card natively compatible with El Capitan. Could you say to me which are?


Last last thing: the latest nvidia web drivers for El Capitan 10.11.6 are the 346.something and fully support Maxwell-based Nvidia cards. So, if I install these driver and put, eg, a GTX 950 or a GTX 750 Ti, it supposed to works without any problem?


(The X1900 XT it's a diehard card, unfortunately it works only in Lion and older OS)


Thanks again,


evans_dev.

Nov 27, 2019 11:34 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thanks again to John and thanks Grant.


Yesterday evening I bought for 40 euros a GTX 650... The GT 120 is a little bit powerless compared to the other card on the market. The only 5770 and 5870 that I found on eBay and other websites costs all of them from 80 to 100 euros, so out of my budget, and when I found something that costs something not out of my budget... the seller doesn't ship to Italy (I'm Italian).


So, again, thanks to you two that helped me so much for such an old argument such as Mac Pro 1,1, El Capitan and this oooold video cards.


This thread can be considered closed!

Nov 26, 2019 11:06 AM in response to Johnb-one

Thanks for your answer John.

I discovered that there are some affordable Mac Edition GPU, like the HD 5770 and HD 5870. On eBay they cost around 80-90 euros. Nvidia made the GTX 680 Mac Edition, but it still costs something like 200 dollars on eBay.


Talking about the GTX 670, I was looking for some videos of the installation and all the pros and cons, but I didn't find anything.


I have an ATI X1900 XT that I used when my OS was Snow Leopard and Lion. Maybe I can buy the GTX 670 and if I have some problems I can put my ATI card inside for all the recovery stuff.


Regarding the PCI-e speed, I don't care so much because I use 2D program, mainly Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign (these 3 are from CS4 and CS5 Suite of Adobe) and Affinity Designer, Publisher and Photo. So no 3D or program that use the GPU a lot.


Thanks again,


evans_dev.

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