16-inch MacBook Pro Bluetooth issue

I bought the new 16-inch MacBook Pro when it first came out and was happily using it until a week later my bluetooth stopped discovering devices, in particular my Magic Mouse and iPhone. I tried everything from resetting nvram, smc, resetting the bluetooth module, removing bluetooth.plist, downloaded bluetooth explorer and reset a bunch of settings etc and even went to the extent of completely formatting the computer and installing osx from scratch to no avail. Hardware diagnostics showed no hardware issues as well. The bluetooth device was showing up fine in System Report but it just wasn't discovering anything. I have a work laptop (2017 MacBook Pro) which I use side by side and it was working fine.


Long story short, I was able to replace the device at the Apple store I bought it at since it was within the 14 day return policy window. So I put it down to just being unlucky.


It's been a few weeks since then and I now have the same issue with the replacement laptop. This time though I think I know what triggered it.


I have a CalDigit dock that I use for my work laptop and occasionally have a usb bluetooth device attached to it for some work I do in virtual machines. The issue occurred when I connected my new MacBook to the dock along with the bluetooth dongle. The usb bluetooth dongle worked fine however when I disconnected the thunderbolt dock from the MacBook I noticed the bluetooth icon in the top right hand corner changed to an icon with a zigzag across it, obviously due to bluetooth device being disconnected.


Since disconnecting the external bluetooth device I'm having the same issue as I had previously, my MacBook Bluetooth device won't find any devices and is not recognized by other bluetooth devices like my iPhone/other MacBooks. I've gone through the whole process as before, and have resorted to a clean install of osx to no avail. I've even compared bluetoothd console logs between the working MacBook I have and the now broken one, the only difference is the working MacBook is able to detect devices when they are advertised, whereas the MacBook Pro 16-inch does not.


Digging into this, it seems as though OSX by default switches to any attached USB bluetooth device when it's plugged in and then when disconnected, it reverts back to the onboard device. This works fine on my old MacBook as I've been using the USB dongle for a while now without any issues. I initially thought that there may be a software issue with the internal bluetooth device not switching back properly but I would have thought a clean install would have fixed it so there must be some sort of hardware issue specifically with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch.


I'm pretty frustrated now as I've now gone through two 16-inch MacBook Pro's with bricked bluetooth devices that I'm fairly certain was caused by connecting an external bluetooth dongle via thunderbolt. I'm pretty sure onboard devices shouldn't die just because a third party device was connected/disconnected.


Has anyone come across this yet with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch? I'm going to visit the Apple store tomorrow to see what they can do but I'd prefer if I didn't have to send my laptop away and just find a fix myself if there is one. If not, I thought it'd be good to post my experience here in case anyone else comes across this.

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Dec 14, 2019 2:09 AM

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Posted on Jan 18, 2020 6:30 AM

I had exactly the same problem (down to every detail) and I think I just found a solution.


I'm also using a CalDigit dock and USB bluetooth stick and I'm on my second MBP 16. The first was replaced under AppleCare after the bluetooth module became apparently dead.


The built-in bluetooth came back to life by running system diagnostics (hold down D during boot). After the subsequent restart, without the USB bluetooth adapter attached, I noticed that bluetooth was seeing some devices in the area but still not connecting to anything. I deleted and re-paired my Magic Mouse 2 and Magic Keyboard 2 - now all is working again.

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Jun 25, 2020 9:32 AM in response to fsnck

Hi,


I tried the same dongle as you for No 1 and I couldn't get it to work. I had tried a couple of them and they were all junk.


For number 2, can you post a couple of screenshots from the System Information when the No 2 dongle is plugged in?

If you can also post a screenshot from the USB section when you click on the USB Dongle.


That will give us a little more information to see the exact chipset and version.


I didn't pair with an Android Phone, for both my MacBooks just plugging in the dongle worked for me. Once I plugged it in and removed it, it seemed to bring the internal dongle back to life.


Jamie


Jul 20, 2020 3:50 AM in response to jeremías49

This post helped me. I'd tried AntiHawk's method which almost got there. The key thing for me was once I'd connected / disconnected / connected again once able to connect to a mobile phone, I needed a reboot - presumably for the OS to catch up with activating the internal bluetooth module fully.


Until I did the reboot, I couldn't add any other Bluetooth device types (e.g. the keyboard I'm using to type this message). Once I'd rebooted, I've been able to add multiple peripherals with the evidently now working internal bluetooth module.


Just thought I'd highlight this in case it helps anyone else!


Apple should definitely compensate the major contributors to this thread given it's saving them multiple very expensive logic board replacements.


Chris


P.S. BT2.0 Device used was as cited earlier in the thread, £4 from Amazon UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0013BFQUE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Aug 11, 2020 3:38 AM in response to kelvin_hk_uk

Yeah very true I did same resets as you did to yours but it never worked. They're going to replace your logic board. I don’t buy my apple products directly from Apple because they’re customer service are sometimes very unhelpful. I got mine from curry’s pc UK and I sent the computer back to them after seven days it’s was brought back with a note. They said , my computer had a faulty logic board so it was replaced.

Sep 4, 2020 7:08 AM in response to christospappas

Boris was incredibly kind to send me the dongle that could fix the problem from Switzerland to the Netherlands. Once I received the dongleI undertook the following steps to make it work:


  1. sudo nvram bluetoothHostControllerSwitchBehavior=always
  2. Unplug all Bluetooth dongles
  3. Turn off Bluetooth
  4. Reboot the MacBook (I turned it off and back on)
  5. Log in
  6. Plug the Bluetooth 2.1 dongle in
  7. Verify that it works by seeing names of Bluetooth devices pop up in the Bluetooth settings window
  8. Take the Bluetooth dongle out
  9. The MacBook's internal Bluetooth module is now once again working.
  10. sudo nvram bluetoothHostControllerSwitchBehavior=never


Thank you so much, Boris, for helping a complete stranger. That gesture alone means more to me than actually having helped solve my problem.

Sep 29, 2020 12:20 PM in response to BZZH

Hi Boris ,


I have CSR8510 A10 but seems it's not helping.


And I couldn't order another one as I live in Turkey.


I'd be really happy if somebody can help me with a dongle that helps me to fix the issue because I couldn't find any of the mentioned dongles here. (you can reach me from @uguraydogdu_ on tw)


Here's a list of confirmed dongles in all replies.


B00345SLGS


https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0013BFQUE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007019TZY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 


https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B000YHUR0M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IMQ58NI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Sep 30, 2020 8:34 AM in response to pindab0ter

Same here. Boris sent the module to Germany and I cannot tell how thankful I am. I had bought 3 different modules and fiddled around for days, spent hours at the Apple Store and another service partner without success (because my job does not allow me to give my main computer away for 7+ days).


The method described by pindab0ter alone did not work for me, I hat to reset the bluetooth settings and perform NVRAM and SMC resets between steps 3 and 4 to make it work.


Once again: Kudos to Boris for helping us!


As I hope that I will not experience this issue again, I would like to follow Boris's example and send the module he sent me to somebody in need. Just send a mail to fs//at//snck//dot//biz.

Oct 27, 2020 5:43 AM in response to celsobsantos

Guys please contact Apple support if you have this issue and clearly explain how this issue appeared after connecting an external bluetooth receiver. This might be solvable with a software update. The workaround with an old BT 2.0 which seems to work for some people and while cleverly found cannot be the real solution.


If no-one tells Apple about this issue, they don't know about it or how many people are affected (which is important for determining priority) how can we expect them to solve it?

Oct 27, 2020 12:11 PM in response to arnoud257

Isn't it clear that lots of people *are* contacting Apple support and visiting Apple facilities with this issue – but the support personnel are either clueless, or coached to appear clueless & non-committal, despite being pointed to this thread?


Hasn't this thread – on an official Apple support site! – been alive for 11 months now? (There are similar threads about this issue on Reddit, MacRumors, YouTube, etc.)


Doesn't it show a 100% reproducible flaw in Apple's high-end laptops, that any Apple engineer could reproduce instantly with a $9 BT 4.0 dongle?


Doesn't this thread point the way to a fix – something triggered in the firmware by those old dongles, in a certain pattern – that an Apple Bluetooth engineer could easily understand, then simulate with an OS/firmware update?


Is it really possible a $2 trillion company doesn't already have a tracking issue with an accurate description for this flaw?


No, they must have simply decided to deprioritize its fix, because the lost functionality & hours of time of those affected are less salient than the staff costs to fix.


So by all means, insist on warranty returns/replacements or motherboard swaps, so Apple faces some cost for inaction. But let's not portray this as the victims' fault for not letting Apple know about the problem. Apple's been told, repeatedly, worldwide.

Oct 29, 2020 4:22 PM in response to matan129

I wish it was that simple, because it seems like not every 2.0 device will do it.. Mine, for instance, doesn't.


A couple posts back I posted my device version/id and that one causes the issue, but seems like it doesn't solve it. I'd be happy to lend it to someone to investigate if they want, but I wouldn't recommend it.


I still have the issue and have tried the whole process multiple times, so it looks like there's something more to it and others have also said so.


I'm waiting on a couple other dongles I bought in the meantime to try and solve this. Feels like wasted money but at least both of them were under 12€ total, shipping included.

Nov 10, 2020 9:07 AM in response to christospappas

As of macOS Catalina update 10.15.7 (19H15) I am now unable to brick the bluetooth with CSR 4 bluetooth dongle on my MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2019).

While I do not recommend testing this, it might be possible that Apple has implemented a patch to fix this problem.


If you want to test if bluetooth is actually fixed by patch issued by Apple please have the CSR 2.0 dongle available just in case as I did :)


The Bluetooth Preferences panel still crashes sometimes when CSR 4 dongle is unplugged but rebooting the Mac fixed all 10 attempts to brick the bluetooth.

Sometimes even turning bluetooth off and on again fixed the bluetooth after unplugging the CSR 4 dongle.


PS.

The rabbit hole still deepens in my case as I was able to fix intermittient WI-FI disconnection problems by causing kernel panic with excessive CSR 4 dongle re-inserts x'D

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