Apple says I need to pay more for my repair but won’t tell me why

I am in a quandary.


i prepaid for a repair on my 2015 MacBook Pro. The battery is swollen so much the bottom case popped open. I submitted it out of Apple care under apple’s battery repair program.

now they are telling me that isn’t the problem and that I need to pay an additional $300+ dollars but won’t tell me what is the problem and also won’t let me chat or phone because I am out of warranty.

will I be refunded the $200 I’ve already prepaid if they return it to me? No one knows.

what is the actual problem? No one knows.


what should I do? Seems I am screwed. Without money or a computer!

MacBook Pro Retina

Posted on Dec 24, 2019 3:01 AM

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Posted on Dec 25, 2019 11:14 AM

You will never be charged for a repair that isn’t completed if you do your repair through Apple. They will even ignore any shipping costs if you decline the additional cost and have the device returned. AASP may have their own charges that cannot be refunded.


That being said, you can totally call back in to AppleCare (1-800-my-Apple). Warranty/AppleCare+ don’t matter because you are currently a “paying customer” for the repair service. I think they also got a lot more relaxed about the phone support time limits in the last few years. Ask to speak with a senior advisor if the first person you get doesn’t seem to know what’s going on. I’m not sure the first level technical advisors get well trained on repair issues, but a senior advisor should know more about the reason for the extra cost.


Side note: Since Apple issues a new 90-day warranty on their repairs, they require all issues with the device be repaired before sending the device back “repaired.”

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Dec 25, 2019 11:14 AM in response to philsmy

You will never be charged for a repair that isn’t completed if you do your repair through Apple. They will even ignore any shipping costs if you decline the additional cost and have the device returned. AASP may have their own charges that cannot be refunded.


That being said, you can totally call back in to AppleCare (1-800-my-Apple). Warranty/AppleCare+ don’t matter because you are currently a “paying customer” for the repair service. I think they also got a lot more relaxed about the phone support time limits in the last few years. Ask to speak with a senior advisor if the first person you get doesn’t seem to know what’s going on. I’m not sure the first level technical advisors get well trained on repair issues, but a senior advisor should know more about the reason for the extra cost.


Side note: Since Apple issues a new 90-day warranty on their repairs, they require all issues with the device be repaired before sending the device back “repaired.”

Dec 25, 2019 8:26 PM in response to HWTech

I should have clarified that I am in Japan - seems that part of the problem is that my apple account is homed in the US, but I actually live in Japan. So all communications come from apple.com, but originate in apple japan. The issue seemed to be that the english speaking service desk could not understand the comments from apple service japan, so they didn't give me any.

It took a couple of phone calls, and a long time on wait, before we could actually speak to the japanese service desk who explained that something called 'kiban' (that neither the Japanese service person, nor my japanese wife could explain exactly what it was inside the computer) also needed replacing.

The invoice for the higher fee was issued - incorrectly - from Apple US. They didn't mean I needed to pay an ADDITIONAL $350, but that the new TOTAL would be $350. (Here in Japan a out of warrantee battery repair is about $200)


Anyway, it took a lot of back and forth and inter-lingual confusion but the issue was resolved. Not totally happy about paying so much to repair a 5 year old machine that has a clear 'factory' defect (a normal battery does not swell and it is not because of anything I did), but that's life.

Dec 24, 2019 10:35 PM in response to philsmy

If Apple or an AASP sent the laptop to an Apple repair depot and a repair is declined, then you are usually responsible for the labor fee ($100 US) and the shipping fees (about $20 US I believe). AFAIK, you shouldn't have had to pay anything up front if the repair was to be covered by a free repair program. It sounds like they sent the laptop to the Apple repair depot for a standard out-of-warranty battery replacement which costs about $129 US IIRC. I honestly don't know what costs are refunded if a repair is declined under these circumstances.


No matter whether the laptop is being repaired at the store/shop or whether they sent the laptop to an Apple repair depot, they should be providing you with the additional details and information. An AASP can certainly ask the repair depot for more details and even request pictures if necessary. Insist on them providing you more information. If the Apple Store or AASP doesn't know the details or don't know how much you will owe for the declined repair, then they can certainly ask their technical support contacts at Apple.


You may want to contact Apple directly as well.

https://www.apple.com/contact/

Dec 25, 2019 9:36 PM in response to philsmy

philsmy wrote:
Anyway, it took a lot of back and forth and inter-lingual confusion but the issue was resolved. Not totally happy about paying so much to repair a 5 year old machine that has a clear 'factory' defect (a normal battery does not swell and it is not because of anything I did), but that's life.


When a battery swells, it's often for some random reason. There isn't a single production device with a lithium rechargeable battery that doesn't have some reports of swollen batteries. It's just something that happens. I've had it happen once, but that was in a polycarbonate MacBook where it just pressed a plate out of the external battery well and didn't damage anything.


Apple orders high quality batteries from large suppliers, and they don't have access to any kind of special type of battery that won't occasionally swell. It's just a reality with the technology.


However, when sealed batteries swell, they tend to push out and damage things.

Dec 26, 2019 11:23 AM in response to philsmy

philsmy wrote:

Anyway, it took a lot of back and forth and inter-lingual confusion but the issue was resolved. Not totally happy about paying so much to repair a 5 year old machine that has a clear 'factory' defect (a normal battery does not swell and it is not because of anything I did), but that's life.

While Apple does have unacknowledged free repair programs, the programs usually only covers systems less than three (sometimes four) years old. As @y_p_w mentions any Lithium-ion battery can swell and it does not indicate an actual widespread manufacturing defect. Things fail especially after five years of use.


I'm glad you were finally able to get some more information even if the outcome wasn't quite what you hoped.

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