Thinking about getting my first iPhone

I currently have an LG V20 Android smartphone. I got it at a Verizon store in November 2016. Lately, it's been acting more like a dumb phone than a smartphone. I have to repeatedly tap the screen to wake up the phone or put the phone to sleep or open an app or go to a link.


I've spent hours on YouTube & Google.


Initially, I considered a Google Pixel 4 XL. It has good & bad reviews. My V20 has a higher maximum brightness than the 4 XL. So, I'd have a harder time seeing the screen of the 4 XL in sunlight than the V20. The 11 Pro & Pro Max have a higher maximum brightness than either the V20 or the 4 XL.


The 4 XL has a wide & ultra-wide lens but no telephoto. I want a telephoto.

The 11 has no telephoto. So, I'd prefer the Pro or the Pro Max. Specswise, there's not a whole lot of difference between the Pro & the Pro Max so, I'd prefer the Pro.


I read online that the A13 chip is faster than the Snapdragon 855 in the 4 XL.


I have a 2018 mini & a 2013 MacBook Air.


My mom & my sister have an Android. I have a friend who has an iPhone.


You're probably thinking to yourselves, "Get the iPhone. It's a better phone.". You're probably right.


Needless to say, I'm nervous about getting an iPhone since most of my friends & family have Android phones.


I'm sorry that I'm rambling!


One thing that I'm nervous about switching to an iPhone is texting. That confuses me. My friend (who has an iPhone) & I can send SMS messages back & forth. We've never sent MMS messages back & forth. That wouldn't be a problem, would it? It's my understanding that iMessage is used only between Apple devices. Does that mean that iMessage is automatically used between Apple devices? It would be pretty cool to send myself a message from an iPhone to my computer or vice-versa! It's my understanding that sending/receiving SMS/MMs messages between Android & iPhone isn't a problem.


How long does Apple guarantee sending iOS updates to iPhones?


I've stopped rambling for now!

iPhone 11 Pro

Posted on Feb 5, 2020 6:57 AM

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Posted on Feb 5, 2020 7:29 AM

Both SMS and MMS are services provided by your cellular telephone service provider. They use the cellular telephone voice network, and for MMS, the image or data part is sent via your cellular data connection.


iMessage is Apple’s internet messaging service. It has nothing to do with your cellular service provider, and yes, iMessage only works between Apple devices. All iMessage needs is an internet connection, whether it be over WiFi, or over a cellular data connection. As long as the data connection is free, iMessage is free since Apple charges nothing for the service itself.


You can also use other popular proprietary internet messaging services on an iPhone, like WhatsApp, Skype, Google Hangouts and so forth.


You can also use iOS/MacOS continuity features to send and receive SMS and MMS on your Macs. The iPhone actually does the sending and receiving since only it can connect to the cellular telephone voice network, but the messages are shared with the Macs via continuity -> Use Continuity to connect your Mac, iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Apple Watch - Apple Support

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Feb 5, 2020 7:29 AM in response to macnerd48

Both SMS and MMS are services provided by your cellular telephone service provider. They use the cellular telephone voice network, and for MMS, the image or data part is sent via your cellular data connection.


iMessage is Apple’s internet messaging service. It has nothing to do with your cellular service provider, and yes, iMessage only works between Apple devices. All iMessage needs is an internet connection, whether it be over WiFi, or over a cellular data connection. As long as the data connection is free, iMessage is free since Apple charges nothing for the service itself.


You can also use other popular proprietary internet messaging services on an iPhone, like WhatsApp, Skype, Google Hangouts and so forth.


You can also use iOS/MacOS continuity features to send and receive SMS and MMS on your Macs. The iPhone actually does the sending and receiving since only it can connect to the cellular telephone voice network, but the messages are shared with the Macs via continuity -> Use Continuity to connect your Mac, iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Apple Watch - Apple Support

Feb 6, 2020 5:10 AM in response to macnerd48

When it comes to SMS and MMS, there is no difference between any make and model of cellular telephone or smart phone. SMS/MMS is old technology, even predating the internet. It is handled entirely by the cellular telephone service providers over their cellular telephone voice network (and cellular data network for the data part of an MMS).


With iMessage, an iPhone user registers their cellular telephone number with their AppleID (Apple’s form of unique personal login ID for all Apple services). That also associates it with any email addresses also registered with that AppleID.


It’s then simple for the system to check the number (and/or email address) being messaged and if it too is registered to an AppleID in the iMessage system, then it gets sent as iMessage. Everything about iMessage uses the internet, not the cellular telephone voice network.


All internet message service (iMesage, Skype, Google Hangouts, WhatsApp) are wholly independent of any cellular telephone service provider’s messaging networks. SMS (as we know it now) dates from the very early 1990’s and actually has its origins in the 1960’s, while the first internet messaging wasn’t until 8-10 years later (AOL being one if the first widely used systems). SMS/MMS are services handled by the cellular carriers and require a cellular telephone, while all internet messaging services are proprietary and handled by company hardware owned by the company offering the service. All any internet messaging service requires is a computing device with an internet connection, which is why they work on tablets, laptops, desktops, smart TV’s...

Feb 6, 2020 9:27 AM in response to macnerd48

The iPhone sending doesn’t “know” the other person actually has an iPhone (or iPad or Mac). The iMessage system knows whether the cellular number or email address being sent to is registered to an AppleID in Apple’s iMessage system.


Its really not terribly different than the carrier based SMS system looking up the cellular number your send an SMS to and routing the message to that cellular telephone. The phone number is register with a carrier somewhere and associated with a texting plan. The system just determines that and routes the message.

Feb 6, 2020 4:37 AM in response to askbarnabas

I have an Android & a friend has an iPhone. When I receive a text from him, the text is black on a white background. When my sister (who has an Android) sends me a text, the text is also black on a white background.


I know that iMessage is only between Apple products. But how does Message switch back & forth between Message & iMessage? How does iMessage (Message?) know that the recipient of a message sent from an iPhone is an Android? Likewise, how does iMessage (Message?) know that an iPhone is receiving a message from an Android?


When my sister sends me a MMS, my phone asks me if I want to download the media. What happens with MMS between Android & iPhone & between iPhone & Android?

Feb 6, 2020 4:54 PM in response to Michael Black

Uh-oh, I thought of more questions!


I suppose that it isn't a problem to transfer SMS/MMS messages from an Android phone to an iPhone, correct? That would be done during the initial setup of the iPhone. I reckon that the Android messages would be saved in the Messages app. Can the Message app archive text messages or save them as text files? What about saving MMS messages outside of Message or iCloud? I think that Rich Text can display pictures. I've never sent messages with video. Can Messages do that? I think that it can.


I can't think of anything else on my Android dumb smartphone that I'd want to save.


I'm sorry that I'm asking so many questions!

Feb 24, 2020 5:02 AM in response to askbarnabas

I've watched YouTube video reviews of the 11 Pro & 11 Pro Max. The reviewer laughs when he states that the base phone has 64GB. Why would one laugh about that? Just transfer the photos, videos from the phone to iCloud Drive. Is that automatically done by the phone or manually done by the owner?


I wish that Apple has a 128GB option for the 11 Pro & 11 Pro Max.

Feb 24, 2020 5:52 AM in response to macnerd48

Some people need more than 64gb. I have a 256gb but I am not even using 64gb. It is all up to the individual needs of each person. iCloud is available but it is not your primary storage but a backup and does not store every single thing. iCloud backups can be set to do auto magically but you should also manually back up your device to your computer (which would store every single thing.

Feb 26, 2020 7:17 AM in response to askbarnabas

OK, I'm 99 & 44/100 % sure that I want to get an iPhone 11 Pro.


I'm still confused between iCloud & iCloud Drive. Earlier in these posts, it is stated that iCloud is a backup. Isn't iCloud Drive ALSO a backup? I've enabled iCloud Drive on my mini. I've experimented with saving text documents. I created a test document with Libre Office. I was able to save it in iCloud Drive & transfer it back & forth between iCloud Drive & Google Drive. I also created a folder in iCloud Drive & I was able to transfer the folder to Google Drive.


This is what confuses me. Are photos & videos that I take saved in iCloud or in iCloud Drive?


Are the photos & videos on the iPhone automatically transferred from the iPhone to iCloud (iCloud Drive?) or must they be transferred manually?


So basically what is allowed in iCloud & what is allowed in iCloud Drive? What is forbidden in iCloud & what is forbidden in iCloud Drive?


I have text messages (SMS & MMS) on my Android. I want them transferred to the iPhone. I have Contacts on my Android that I want transferred to the iPhone. That would be done during setup of the iPhone, correct?


I'm sorry that I'm asking so many questions. This will be my 1st iPhone. Needless to say, I'm nervous about getting an iPhone!

Feb 26, 2020 7:37 AM in response to macnerd48

There is a point of confusion regarding iCloud storage and iCloud backups; they are actually not related.


You can set up your phone to back up to iCloud every night automatically. If you do this maintains a copy of most of what is on your phone that can be restored to your phone if you need to recover something that you deleted, or if your phone crashes, or if it has to be repaired, or to the replacement if your phone is lost or stolen. But it is one “object” that replaces everything on your phone, you can’t access it selectively.


iCloud Sync is completely different. You can choose to sync most data on your phone to iCloud. This is real time or near real time, and the data synced can be accessed on other devices that share the iCloud account and much of it can be viewed and managed with a web browser. It’s important to realize that iCloud Sync is a syncing service, not an archiving service. If you delete an item that is synced (like a photo) from your phone it will be removed from iCloud and from all devices that sync to iCloud. Items that can be synced to iCloud: Mail settings, contacts, calendars, reminders, notes messages, Safari browser settings, news settings, Stock app settings, Health settings, Home automation settings if you use Apple Home, Apple Wallet settings, Game Center, Siri settings, Keychain (Apple’s password manager). Plus app data including most document types such as word processing files, spreadsheets, presentations.


There is some interaction between Sync and Backup - essentially, anything that is synced is not included in an iCloud backup, because that would be redundant.

Feb 26, 2020 8:43 AM in response to macnerd48

First, iCloud Drive was just an app to view and manage files in iCloud. And it doesn’t exist any more as it was replaced with the “Files” app.


The only thing truly backed up in iCloud is the iCloud backup file. Everything else uses iCloud to synchronize files across your devices. So photos and videos do live in iCloud but also are on your devices. Changes made on any device are reflected in iCloud which then sync’s those changes across all devices. The same thing happens for contacts, notes in iCloud, messages in iCloud.


But what icloud is not is independent archival storage. So if you delete a photo or contact or note on your device, it will be deleted in iCloud.


You can of course not use iCloud photos (I never have) and simply transfer pictures to a computer hard drive for backup and archiving, just as you can with any digital camera.

Feb 26, 2020 11:03 AM in response to macnerd48

I just logged into icloud.com.


I should have done this along time ago before I sent my 1st post.


I think that I understand the difference between iCloud & iCloud Drive.


At icloud.com I see Mail, Contacts, Calendar, Photos, iCloud Drive, Notes, Reminders, Pages, Numbers, Keynote, Find Friends, Find iPhone. I thought that iCloud Drive was separate from iCloud. Apparently, it isn't.


In iCloud Drive is the "Test Document" folder that I created. Within the "Test Document" folder is the test document that I created with Libre Office. iCloud Drive functions the same as Google Drive or Dropbox, etc. I'm guessing that iCloud drive is used to store personal stuff that won't fit any of the apps. Like, for example, I create a document in Libre Office. The only place that I can save it is to iCloud Drive.


So...

iCloud is a backup for the apps. If the iPhone crashes & must be reset or if one gets a new iPhone, the apps in iCloud can be downloaded to the new iPhone. Part of the 64GB (256GB, 512GB) is used to store iCloud.


But how much storage space? I'm still confused. 5GB is free. I'm guessing that the 5GB is for the iCloud apps, including iCloud Drive. If one has a lot of text messages or e-mails or photos or videos, storage space is free if it's under 5GB. Since iCloud Drive is part of iCloud, I'm also guessing that whatever is in iCloud Drive is part of the free 5GB.


DING, DING, DING! Did I win the prize? I think that I've seen the lite. Are my assumptions correct?

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