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6430 Views 4 Replies Latest reply: Aug 23, 2010 7:35 AM by infobleep
Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2010 5:55 AM (in response to infobleep)Hi there
I've since installed a trail version MacDrive to see if that might help but it hasn't made any difference to the creation dates of previously moved files from my Digital Camera to my Mac, when viewed in Windows 7. I have e-mailed MacDrive to see if they can tell me whether their software would help and if so what I might need to do, in order to resolve the issue. I'm happy to purchase a copy of MacDrive but only if it does what I require. Same goes for any other software, which may help with the date issues.
InfobleepMacBook, Mac OS X (10.6.4), Also running Windows 7 via VirtualBox
Currently Being ModeratedAug 1, 2010 7:58 AM (in response to infobleep)I ran into the same type of problems and gave up
Paragon-Software has a commercial NTFS driver for OS X and HFS+ (beta) driver
Personally I don't like Mac OS writing to NTFS. I don't want Spotlight and those ".DS_" type of files littering my drives. Also, HFS+ supports filenames that Windows won't accept and can totally hang or kill Windows Explorer if it encounters any file with special characters.
Also, unrelated, but Windows 7's Backup function wouldn't run with AppleHFS present, so that was another reason I renamed in order to disable AppleHFS.Mac Pro 8800GT 10.6.4 /, Windows 7, Core i7 3.2GHz / GTX 260 / 10K VelociRaptors
Currently Being ModeratedAug 2, 2010 5:20 PM (in response to infobleep)So to understand your issue.
You have lots of old drives running with the NTFS file system.
Now that you have a MAC you want to keep using these drives in the same way.
The issue is that the MAC is writing the day you copied the content onto the hard drive in NTFS external drives as the creation date?
Is this correct?
If so, I believe that you are trying to do a Windows thing in a MAC world....
I am using Parallels and VM ware. I cannot see any problem with VMware and the file creation dates in either MAC or XP. I have created new files in each, crossed over to the other operating system and modified the files. Both files are correctly displaying the content the way they need to be with the correct modified and created dates. The VMware and MAC OS use the mac file system as a base.
I would try to save the digital photos to the external drives while in windows. If you need to use the MAC when doing this I personally would copy off all the old PC files onto my mac and then reformat the external drive as a MAC file system drive. Then copy the files back to the external drive from the MAC. If you are using VMware this drive can be useable by windows as a "shared folder".
If you acknowledge the external USB drive as a USB device in WMware it will of course be in MAC file system format so the new formatted drive will only be viewable in the Computer Management application (WinXP ) And it will not show up as a drive.
To get around this I created a new shared folder in the VMware (Settings -> System Settings -> Sharing) and just simply chose the entire portable drive as a shared folder. Works like a charm. Now WinXP can use the VMware Tools app and properly translate the file content over the the MAC drive. I just created a few files and don't see any issue with the file creation dates.
MAC doesn't use NTFS for its file system and since NTFS is a windows technology, probably cannot? If anything the software that is allowing you to write to the NTFS drive is probably emulating something and that piece of software is at fault. I have an old NTFS drive and don't remember being able to write to it natively from the MAC OS.... In fact my new 1TB drive was purchased to allow me to transfer all my old data off the legacy drive so that I can update it to the new MAC world
Though even more then this... I personally never rely on something so fallible as a computer maintained "created on" or "modified on" concept as these are subjective. As of the new millennium file names have been basically unbound. I would instead append the date and time to my file name as follows.
201007310300 Some Name of a File.jpg
this way no matter what is done with the file you still have the all important creation date.
An apple script should be able to be created to look at the creation dates on the files as they are stored on the mac and append the date to the file name. (basic shell scripting)
And if this doesn't work for you, perhaps the Linux file system is a better option? I believe that MAC will play nicer with Linux. And I know that there are software drivers to read a linux drive on a PC. Again, though, creation dates can easily change and are no guarantee as to when a file was really created.
So to conclude. All of my external drives are in MAC FS. If I need to copy files to a PC I can use my new 64GB flash drive. (I mean that is a HDD all in to itself!) If you are stuck in NTFS land, save the files via your Windows emulation.MacPC, Other OS, smokin
Currently Being ModeratedAug 23, 2010 7:35 AM (in response to macalias007)Thank you for all your comments. Macalias I had been naming the files based on the date and time but the problem I was having was that the dates and times were not displaying correctly, so I couldn't rename the videos.
However I have now resolved the problem. The problem was caused by creating shared folders using VirtualBox shared folder interface.
To get Mac dates to appear correctly in Windows, one can create a virtual bridged network in VirtualBox or a host only network. The later is more useful because it doesn't require one to be connected to a physical network, in order to transfer data between Windows 7 and Snow Leopard.
If anyone would like more details on setting this up then reply to this thread and I will post more detailed information.
As soon as I created a Bridged NetworkMacBook, Mac OS X (10.6.4), Also running Windows 7 via VirtualBox