Using Logic with Zoom teleconference

I suspect others are having my problem.


Using Zoom teleconferencing software. https://zoom.us/


I need to share the screen in a conference. What I need to share on the screen is my Logic Pro X session.


The problem? No audio from Logic makes it to my clients.


Focusrite Clarett Pre8 interface.

I've set up a composite audio device via AudioMidi setup. That doesn't work.

I've utilized every available option within the Zoom software. That doesn't work.


Thanks for reading this post. Thanks for responding, if you can, even just to say, "You're screwed, it won't work."


Tim

iMac 27" 5K, macOS 10.15

Posted on Mar 21, 2020 7:52 AM

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Posted on Apr 11, 2020 7:49 AM

Hi again :) I just used BlackHole beta with the audio engineer I mentioned, it works fine! No latency, just your device's (So with Audient id14 is close to zero), just use a low buffer size in a light project (I used 128 succesfully).

The routing is a little tricky, an aggregate device is needed, but it works! And the software is free.

SoudFlower is not more supported on new OS, and Loopback is not an option tome (too much expensive). Hope it will work for you too!

You can download the installer here

https://existential.audio/blackhole/?pk_campaign=github&pk_kwd=readme

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Apr 11, 2020 7:49 AM in response to andrea_long

Hi again :) I just used BlackHole beta with the audio engineer I mentioned, it works fine! No latency, just your device's (So with Audient id14 is close to zero), just use a low buffer size in a light project (I used 128 succesfully).

The routing is a little tricky, an aggregate device is needed, but it works! And the software is free.

SoudFlower is not more supported on new OS, and Loopback is not an option tome (too much expensive). Hope it will work for you too!

You can download the installer here

https://existential.audio/blackhole/?pk_campaign=github&pk_kwd=readme

Apr 24, 2020 6:13 AM in response to Federica1973

Hi everybody,


I just figured to share that I've also implemented Blackhole and it really works! All I did was creating a multi-output device to include 1) my DUET interface (master clock) and 2) blackhole (w/ drift correction), and configured I/O as follows:


LOGIC

input - DUET

output - multi-output device


ZOOM

input - blackhole

output - DUET


All of this without having to reconfigure output assignments on Logic, or changing audio preferences on my Mac general settings. I didn't create a multi-input device because I use my interface both for tracking instruments and for my talkback, but that's of course a possibility.


Thank you again to everybody for your precious feedback!


Stay healthy!


A

Mar 24, 2020 7:24 AM in response to Wilddrums

Some progress made here...


It seems Zoom teleconference software on MacOS installs an audio driver of it's own. Logic recognizes this driver. If I select it in Logic Audio preferences, it works -- with a 2 or 3 second delay.


Funny/headscratcher thing here: GarageBand on my iMac works without any adjustments. GarageBand passes audio into Zoom with no trouble.


WD, thanks for your time and sharing.


Tim

Mar 27, 2020 6:40 AM in response to TimDTyler

Hi there! I do the same here, arranging lessons online. No composite device needed! Just select Zoom Audio Device as in and out from Zoom options, and join by computer audio. I have no idea why but Logic does the magic all by itself, without any sample rate conversione needed. I was just looking for someone who knows why does it happens...

Just you have to listen from build in speakers...

Apr 11, 2020 2:10 AM in response to TimDTyler

HI everybody! The manual is REALLY helpful and very complete! Thank you!

I just disagree about the using of Headphones...'cause it's really exhausting fo me and my ears (My lessons take many many hours), so I prefer to use the built in audio output instead, and I save my voice and my listening ^_^

I have another big question:@Wilddrums you mentioned the 48khz transmitting only on Pro Tools, and even in Logic...but I have a different experience: I was in grade of transmitting every earlier project audio on my old 44.100 sessions. I have no idea how is it possible and I posted the question in many forums but no answers...

By the way, I can assure you that it works pretty fine! Maybe Logic (That's the only DAW who lets you use two different audio devices for input and output, and allows to play any audio file with any other, is in grade of a realtime conversion???)


@Andrea Long: i think you have to assume that Zoom has a big, important latency. Anyway. You can have the lowest when you have a good audio device etc, but still it is. And when you play on Logic you will have, on recording your guitar, the same latency 'cause you're using the Zoom virtual audio device. Your producer will have also the plus latency made by connection...

If you d'n't have the need of play together (That's still impossible in realtime even if you use Ninjam) i suggest you to bypass the Logic audio by zoom device and use a secondary device. I use a very small analog mixer with anything connected in, so I can, for example, sing on a backing track, or sing and play the piano, all on the mixer, and I connected the main out with 2 balanced cables to the 1/2 input of my Audient iD14. You can do the same by using an Y cable to the mixer from the pin jack of the mac, for example...the audio will be not great but it will work!

This is a very "analog" solution, even 'cause in Italy connections are terrible and I try not to "force" the performances.

In the manual that WildDrums let everybody download you can find a more "tech" solution using Soundflower, if you are sure of your network and machine performances ^_^

Hope this can help!


Mar 21, 2020 1:31 PM in response to Wilddrums

WD,


Thanks for your reply and help. I did find that article and tried doing exactly what it says. The article is almost two years old and there's been a Logic update since it was published. All that to say, it doesn't work. I followed the instructions to the letter. No go.


Downloaded and installed SoundFlower.

Downloaded and installed Ladio.

Followed instructions to the letter.


Any more help you might offer?


Thank you,


Tim

Mar 21, 2020 6:23 PM in response to TimDTyler

TimDTyler,


I knew it was two years old but macOS and Logic audio didn't change that much to that respect. Few things to consider:


Your signature shows "macOS 10.15". You may have to look at some authorization settings in macOS Preference > Security & Privacy > Privacy. This may also raise other issues.


"I followed the instructions to the letter". You may have to adapt them to your configuration.


I cannot do some tests now. Maybe other members of the forum can provide few insights.


WD

Mar 27, 2020 6:53 AM in response to Federica1973

Hi Federica,


Great! You verified my fix for the trouble. Thank you!


My problem with using the Zoom audio device in Logic is the feedback loop that occurs when you select an audio track. I have to experiment some more to see if it's the built-in mic on my iMac that's generating the feedback. In Logic, with Zoom audio device selected, in the arrange window, select an audio track and see if you get feedback. I'm assuming if I turn off the input on the track, the feedback would stop. Must experiment more.


Thanks!


Tim

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