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How to retain actual creation date when copying/moving/transferring photos from iPhone to iMac

I have been unable to find any way to retain the actual creation date of my photos (in other words, the date the photo was taken) when I try to move them from my iPhone to my iMac. While the creation date can be shown through "Get Info" for the particular file, I need to be able to quickly see the creation date for individual photos as well as groups/lists of photos as I'm browsing through them in a folder. Instead, the column that's supposed to show the creation date shows the date that the photo was copied into the folder or to the device. In fact, for my latest attempt, the same date/time is listed for Date Modified, Date Created and Date Added. Worse, the same date is sown in Get Info.


I've seen some replies to similar questions that say this is impossible because the metadata for a photo cannot be captured for the description used in the file manager, but I have photos from other OSes and devices that have been able to retain the info.


I've noted that this is about the Mac, but it really may be about my iPhone (iPhone 7Plus, IOS 13.4.1) and my iMac or the interaction between them. I hope someone can assist me with this and many thanks in advance.

iMac 27″, macOS 10.13

Posted on Jun 22, 2020 8:31 PM

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Posted on Jun 27, 2020 4:29 PM

I found a better way to do this! I used Image Transfer on my iMac. It recognized the iPhone and I was able to select photos on the phone to transfer to a separate file I created on my Mac (not in the Photos app). They've all got the correct date and they're in HEIC format so I haven't lost data/quality!


So the solution is to simply avoid iCloud altogether, as it must be something in the way it transfers photos that doesn't retain proper date in the file system. Or it may just be that Photos is set up to favor the transfer date of photos rather than the actual creation date. It also may be that when I tried to copy the photos to the iMac, the format changed from HEIC to .jpg (as was mentioned here but was unbeknownst to me at the time) and that's when the date problem happened. Perhaps when the HEIC format is retained in transferring the photos, the Finder can read the actual date, whereas it isn't able to do so with files in jpeg format. I certainly have not figured out the ins and outs and whys of this.


But the whys are not immediately an issue just now because the immediate priorities are to double check that this works and to make sure there won't be any surprises as I try to take the photos from the iPhone and move them to the special file I created on my iMac. So far, I've tried Image Transfer with only a select group of photos, but now I need to make sure that I can keep them separate from iCloud so they don't overload the basic allotment of space there. I'm not certain whether iCloud will try to sync any photos or just the ones in the Photos app. And, I'll need to make sure the HEIC files I managed to transfer will stay put on my iMac when I eventually delete them from my iCloud Drive. Any tips on how to do that would be very much appreciated.


Also, I think part of what was complicating my understanding is that I had thought of the iCloud Drive as an actual drive, when in actuality it's a syncing system, right?

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Jun 27, 2020 4:29 PM in response to Yer_Man

I found a better way to do this! I used Image Transfer on my iMac. It recognized the iPhone and I was able to select photos on the phone to transfer to a separate file I created on my Mac (not in the Photos app). They've all got the correct date and they're in HEIC format so I haven't lost data/quality!


So the solution is to simply avoid iCloud altogether, as it must be something in the way it transfers photos that doesn't retain proper date in the file system. Or it may just be that Photos is set up to favor the transfer date of photos rather than the actual creation date. It also may be that when I tried to copy the photos to the iMac, the format changed from HEIC to .jpg (as was mentioned here but was unbeknownst to me at the time) and that's when the date problem happened. Perhaps when the HEIC format is retained in transferring the photos, the Finder can read the actual date, whereas it isn't able to do so with files in jpeg format. I certainly have not figured out the ins and outs and whys of this.


But the whys are not immediately an issue just now because the immediate priorities are to double check that this works and to make sure there won't be any surprises as I try to take the photos from the iPhone and move them to the special file I created on my iMac. So far, I've tried Image Transfer with only a select group of photos, but now I need to make sure that I can keep them separate from iCloud so they don't overload the basic allotment of space there. I'm not certain whether iCloud will try to sync any photos or just the ones in the Photos app. And, I'll need to make sure the HEIC files I managed to transfer will stay put on my iMac when I eventually delete them from my iCloud Drive. Any tips on how to do that would be very much appreciated.


Also, I think part of what was complicating my understanding is that I had thought of the iCloud Drive as an actual drive, when in actuality it's a syncing system, right?

Jun 23, 2020 12:45 AM in response to AnnieA91604

There are two kinds of metadata involved when you consider jpeg or other image file.


One is the file data. This is what the Finder shows. This tells you nothing about the contents of the file, just the File itself.


The problem with File metadata is that it can easily change as the file is moved from place to place or exported, e-mailed, uploaded etc.


Photographs have also got both Exif and IPTC metadata. The date and time that your camera snapped the Photograph is recorded in the Exif metadata. Regardless of what the file date says, this is the actual time recorded by the camera.


Photo applications like Photos, Aperture, Lightroom, Photoshop etc get their date and time from the Exif metadata.


The problem is that the Finder doesn't work with Exif.


So, your photo has the correct date, and so does the file, but they are different things. To sort on the Photo date you'll need to use a photo- savvy app or go to the bother editing the file metadata to match the exif. You can do that with an app like


https://www.publicspace.net/ABetterFinderAttributes/

Jun 23, 2020 5:09 AM in response to AnnieA91604

is the system version shown below your post still valid (iMac 27″, macOS 10.13)? Then upgrading to a newer system version may help. In macOS X 10.14 Mojave and macOS X Catalina you can see the capture date below the quicklook of an image file, when you are browsing the image files in Column View.


How are you downloading the photos from the iPhone? The file creation date will be different from the embedded exif capture date, whenever a new file has to be created, for example, if your iPhone is taking the images in the High Efficiency format and you are downloading them from the iPhone converted to JPEGs. The creation date will also change, if you are syncing the files with iCloud Photos.



Jun 24, 2020 6:02 PM in response to Yer_Man

Here's what I was trying to do: take the photos I had taken with my iPhone and move them to my iMac. That's all and I just can't understand why it is so difficult to do. I had to ask for Apple help and although we got cut off before we were done, I was able to bring the photos onto my iMac, but not with the correct date. So now, I have to delete them all - and there's a lot of of them - and start over, presuming I can find a way to transfer photos while retaining the true creation date.


I haven't had this problem with other photos that I've copied from other devices to my iMac - they show the correct creation date, although there have been some files with which I've had the same problem. So doesn't that seem to contradict what you've just told me? Or is there something else that I'm missing? Apple has always been in the vanguard of taking care of user needs, so I don't understand why such an obvious problem hasn't been solved.


Are you saying that the app you linked will copy photos without changing the date? Is there a way to transfer photos that doesn't use the Photos app and would that solve the problem?


Although I actually used to tutor on the Mac in a community college computer lab a long time ago, at this point I have to consider myselfI new-ish to the Mac, so your patience with my questions is appreciated and thanks for taking the time to reply.

Jun 24, 2020 6:29 PM in response to léonie

Thanks for the reply but before I say anything else please note, as I mentioned above, that I'm really new to the Mac as it now exists although I used to use them years ago. I've only had my phone and iMac since around the beginning of the year, so there are a lot of basics that I'm not familiar with yet.


I'm using somewhat dated equipment because of a limited budget, so upgrading isn't possible as I understand it since I purchased my iMac used and it's fairly old. When I first got the iPhone, I had started out putting all my photos on iCloud and syncing them among devices. But since I take a lot of photos, I've recently realized that's really not the wisest approach for me, and moving all the photos to my iMac, with the exception of only a few that I would leave in iCloud, makes more sense.


Since the photos were already in my iCloud Drive, I moved them from there into the Photos app on my iMac and then tried to move them to a folder that was external to Photos. Is there a better way to do this? It seems like a convoluted process and I would have preferred to just open up my files on the phone, but the phone doesn't show up as a device on my iPhone so apparently that isn't possible. I didn't deliberately change the format of any of the photo files, but perhaps the way I tried to do this resulted in that.


The Mac used to be so user-friendly! (Despite this issue, I still love the Mac and always will.)

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