Wireless charger in iMac usb port (Electronics guru needed)

I just got a wireless charger (Amoner Qi-Certified 10W Wireless Charging Stand) for an iPhone SE that does work off my iMac (Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, 2017) USB port.


Question 1) Does it cause undo stress on the iMac port to leave the charger plugged in all the time (not necessarily charging all the time)?


I understand a little about how the electron flow through the coils on the wireless charger creating a magnetic field that transfers to the coils on the iPhone. This makes me wonder if the charger is running current through full bore any time the charger is plugged in the USB port with or without even charging anything. Is it detrimental to an iMac USB port to have a fair amount of current running through it every second the iMac is powered up?


Question 2) If the above is okey, would it be beneficial to get an adapter and run the wireless charger off the USB-C port? I am not worried at all about fast charging, just convenience and not damaging anything.


Thanks in advance,

Greg

iMac 21.5″ 4K, macOS 10.14

Posted on Aug 7, 2020 4:19 PM

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Aug 10, 2020 5:52 PM in response to Greg Meador

My understanding of your reply is that it's okey to run the wireless charger off the iMac's USB port but it's not the best solution meaning it will take longer to charge but will not damage either the iMac or the wireless charger. Also that there will still be minimal current draw while the charger is plugged in yet not charging anything. My guess is that would be even less than having an SSD drive plugged in all the time.


Yes. Totally correct.


Why do you say it's "less than ideal" to use the USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 over the standard USB port? I thought it provided more power than the standard USB.


Less than ideal only because of the limited power (relatively speaking) of the USB-C / Thunderbolt ports on your particular model iMac. Only USB 3.1 "Gen 2" ports supply power comparable to the demands of that charging device. Newer Macs have them.


Apple designs protection into their devices, and external ports in particular. If there is the slightest possibility that someone will stick something in them, they will. It is certainly possible to inflict electrical damage but you have to work at it.

Aug 7, 2020 4:33 PM in response to Greg Meador

In my opinion you should not be running the wireless charger on ANY computer port. You should use a standalone power supply that outputs enough power to properly charge the device laying on it. The device you are using comes with a power supply block and you should use it. 10 watts is more power than any computer port can put out.

Aug 8, 2020 6:17 PM in response to Greg Meador

Question 1) Does it cause undo stress on the iMac port to leave the charger plugged in all the time (not necessarily charging all the time)?


No, but that iMac's USB ports will not be able to supply as much current as that device is capable of drawing or providing.


This makes me wonder if the charger is running current through full bore any time the charger is plugged in the USB port with or without even charging anything.


No but you would need to consult that device's specifications to be certain.


A definitive answer depends on the device's construction. If an inductor has no opposition to the magnetic flux it creates then it's not doing any work. No work = no power consumption and the only losses are resistive. The charging device will consume power for purposes other than charging but how much is unknown.


In other words it's certainly less than 100% efficient but it's probably close enough for the purposes you describe.


Question 2) If the above is okey, would it be beneficial to get an adapter and run the wireless charger off the USB-C port? I am not worried at all about fast charging, just convenience and not damaging anything.


You can do that if it's convenient for you. It's less than ideal.


Refer to your iMac's USB specifications.

Aug 8, 2020 5:42 PM in response to lkrupp

Hi lkrupp,


Thanks for your reply but I was hoping for something a little more unequivocal than opinions. Do you have any proof that wireless chargers should not be run off USB ports or just a feeling that they shouldn't be? Are you an Electronics Guru?


I have seem articles stating that a wireless charger cannot be run off a computer's USB port but that's obviously incorrect because this particular charger can be run off this particular iMac's USB port, I just don't want to damage either device by doing so.


(Also, I noticed something after I posted the question. I had changed my Apple ID and iCloud user name and password awhile back but the forum didn't recognize that and started me off as a newbie again. I'm kind-of an "oldie". My first Apple was a Color Classic (iMac predecessor) back in '95(?). Even though I never was real active on this forum I may look into either combining the user names or try using the old one when I come here.)

Aug 10, 2020 5:17 PM in response to John Galt

John,


Thanks for your input.


The only specs I could find came from the the included user manual:


Input: DC 5.0V,2.0A / DC 9.0V,1.8A

Frenquency (their misspelling, not mine) : 110-205KHz Conversion : ≤75%

Size: 92*72.5*112mm N.W:110g




And the output (from Amazon)


Three Charging Modes

10W wireless charging mode for Galaxy S10/S9/S9+/S8/S8+, Galaxy Note 10/ Note 10 Plus/S10 Plus/S10E.

7.5W wireless charging mode for iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max/Xs Max/Xs/XR/X/8/8P;

5W standard charging mode for other phones which support wireless charge.



I just did a test with it and running off the iMac standard USB port it took about 2hr 15min to charge from 31% to 99%. For my use that is perfectly acceptable. I have other plug-in chargers if I need a quicker charge.


My understanding of your reply is that it's okey to run the wireless charger off the iMac's USB port but it's not the best solution meaning it will take longer to charge but will not damage either the iMac or the wireless charger. Also that there will still be minimal current draw while the charger is plugged in yet not charging anything. My guess is that would be even less than having an SSD drive plugged in all the time.


If that's the case, I am A-OK with it. I hardly use the iPhone so it sits on the desktop 90-95% of the time anyway.


Why do you say it's "less than ideal" to use the USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 over the standard USB port? I thought it provided more power than the standard USB. I figured since I'm not currently using it for anything else, I might as well use the greater power for the wireless charger.


Thanks again for your response

Greg

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