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Irritating 2 factor authentication

Does anyone else find two factor authenication horrible? .....my next phone may not be an iphone if this isn't fixed ASAP.

iPhone SE, iOS 13

Posted on Aug 9, 2020 8:42 PM

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Aug 10, 2020 7:43 PM in response to MrHoffman

MR Hoffman.....that was an excellent response. Clear & Concise. Thank you. Since my VPN was removed and I received a code, and the VPN was reinstalled (but remained off) and I received a code, the problem is not the VPN...or so it would seem. I can understand if the VPN was on, that is might cause problems. In addition, in the email from apple support communities, I was able to read your reply by clicking on the link in the email. Responding to you here required a login & a Verification Code......which seems completely unnecessary and security overkill to require a code to log into apple support communities! What secrets am I giving away to apple? No response necessary....this is just an example of verification code excess. I did get the code on my iphone which is a good thing. Somehow the conversation has evolved from required two party authentication to getting me to receive those authentication codes. I'm happy that you've helped me so far, but it's far from reducing the irritation of excess codes. As to LACAllen's response, I followed his instructions, but the "Get Verification Code" states "Get a verification code to sign in on another device or at iCloud.com." If I'm receiving codes on my iphone now, I don't see the value of receiving codes on my ipad, which doesn't accompany me thru out the day. Reading on the internet today, I find that two factor authentication is on the way out. Perhaps technology will progress to something else rapidly.

Aug 10, 2020 9:22 AM in response to jeff730

jeff730 wrote:

Oops....hit the wrong link in my email.....this is NOT solved. That was my error. To add to my last reply, I tested after I removed the VPN and signed into apple.com. Code received. I reinstalled the VPN, left it off, signed into apple.com and code received again. Apparently the test asked was to see if I could receive a code.....which, altho better than not receiving a code, doesn't address the fact that a code is required. It's as if apple doesn't trust whatever password we use to sign in since a code is always required.

also see this... no need to "receive" codes.


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204974


Aug 9, 2020 8:53 PM in response to MrHoffman

Half the time, the code sent is not received by my iphone, but shows up on my ipad. If I'm not around my ipad, then I have to go find it. Irritating. So I could also say, I don't see the prompts half the time....but not by choice. Logging into my apple account requires a code. Posting to this forum required a code. Clicking on a link to another apple website required another code. Gimme a break! I don't recall ever turning on 2 factor.....my iphone wouldn't allow me to sign in a couple of weeks ago without turning it on so I mistakenly allowed it. Now I can't turn it off.

Aug 9, 2020 9:35 PM in response to MrHoffman

Oops....hit the wrong link in my email.....this is NOT solved. That was my error. To add to my last reply, I tested after I removed the VPN and signed into apple.com. Code received. I reinstalled the VPN, left it off, signed into apple.com and code received again. Apparently the test asked was to see if I could receive a code.....which, altho better than not receiving a code, doesn't address the fact that a code is required. It's as if apple doesn't trust whatever password we use to sign in since a code is always required.

Aug 10, 2020 7:53 AM in response to jeff730

The test is to check whether your clients are encountering altered or blocked two-factor notification traffic due to the VPN clients in use (and quite possibly in use across some or all of the clients).


Add-on VPN clients alter the local IP routing such that your network traffic is centralized and quite possibly monitored (as the recent no-logging-VPN-service log dumps have shown), and potentially even injected, and quite possibly in a way that doesn’t even reliably protect the first few hops due to the use of common and widely-known access credentials across vsrious of the VPN clients.


Beyond making it (much) easier to monitor your traffic, VPN clients alter IP routing, which means that two-factor and other traffic can end up confused. The VPN clients can cause your client device to appear at different IP addresses, in different regions or countries, and otherwise appearing to be different accesses. Which would tend to trigger two-factor.


Put differently, VPN apps and add-on anti-malware apps are commonly causes of issues with networking, as those apps can and often do entangle themselves into your network routing.



Aug 10, 2020 7:48 PM in response to jeff730

As to LACAllen's response, I followed his instructions, but the "Get Verification Code" states "Get a verification code to sign in on another device or at iCloud.com." If I'm receiving codes on my iphone now, I don't see the value of receiving codes on my ipad, which doesn't accompany me thru out the day. Reading on the internet today, I find that two factor authentication is on the way out. Perhaps technology will progress to something else rapidly.

2FA protects an account, not a device. They are designed to be delivered to a trusted device and used where needed


I don't believe 2FA is on it's way out at all.

Irritating 2 factor authentication

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