Widgets/Questions in Pages 10.2 (replacing iBooks Author) 2020?

Hi,


Apple was great platform for the use in schools, etc. as teachers could easily create iBooks with iBooks Author. One thing I liked about the Apple iBooks were the widgets, mostly the "Review" widget, where one could create multiple-choice questions and quizzes.

Was this feature removed during the transfer of the iBooks creation process to Pages and the removal of iBooks Author? This would be a massive loss, as there is no possibility to let students check their knowledge right inside the iBooks by responding to quizlets, etc...... or – is there?


Thank you!


Best regards


Luka

MacBook Pro Retina

Posted on Sep 30, 2020 12:08 PM

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Oct 3, 2020 9:25 AM in response to lhenn_

I am afraid, you will lose all these interactive elements.

I am presently transferring iBooks to Pages .... and it’s a mess....

As soon, as you have more than a few pages, an MacBookPro 16GB Ram and SSD will stop working.

It takes hours to make changes in Pages and Pages is not even able to multitask so you could make other, longer taking tasks in the background.

Pages probably did not change much more than the UI since the old iWork times.

I am about stuck with iBook Author cause efficient work in pages on more bigger Book content is not really possible, not only since the good features are missing .... even the basics are not working.


Oct 4, 2020 9:08 AM in response to wolfgang2

wolfgang2 wrote:

If you return to the original .... iBookAuthor ... was the right tool for professional bookwork.
I know that Pages was not made to be a professional tool, but why is Apple giving up all supports on professional software, wether it’s Grafics, Video or now literature ?
The only answer is .... money.
They don’t give a damm what users want ... they want the users, what they earn more money on.
Its a shame.
And .. yes I have to think about another platform.
When Apple turned from FCP7 into FCPX ... it was the same .... time for a change ... and that was a good decision.
Perhaps here it’s the same.

Sorry, I would not compare that move to FCP7 and FCPX. FCPX is still a major brand on the professional NLE market besides Premiere, DaVinci and (*yuck*) Avid. Of course, it was a quite fast transition, but most of the critics simply came from people, that did not feel comfortable about discovering new, faster and future ways of editing. However, FCPX is a powerful and fast NLE, which many big productions rely on. Same with Logic Pro X.


iBooksAuthor was indeed old and did not receive a lot of updates... I didn't like it either. However, I love working on text documents and small design work (which would not require to open InDesign or Photoshop) inside Pages. Pages, too, is a powerful software, if you spend time discovering all the things and features.

I'm sure, that it would be a great software to work on iBooks, if they would implement a better chapter manager, layout templates and interactive iBook widgets (quizlets, input fields, commentaries, etc.). If I remember right, widgets for iBooks were part of the old iWork suite (was it Pages 8?).


I fully understand and support Apple's transition from iBooks Author to Pages, but I don't get why they remove the core software from the market, when they haven't implemented all the necessary iBook features and workflows into Pages yet... That's quite strange.

Oct 3, 2020 8:27 PM in response to wolfgang2

wolfgang2 wrote:

But that means, holding all updates in the system as well and off cause, iBA is not perfect at all, unfortunately it was never really supported by Apple and just ones in a while a bugfix was offered. How ever it was never be really developed.

It is more than likely that iBooks Author will continue to work in Big Sur. Big Sur is likely to be released within the next month & then we will know for sure. As Viking said, if you already have iBooks Author there is no reason not to use it for as long as possible.


I have no specific knowledge of release dates just basing my guess on previous releases.

Oct 3, 2020 1:30 PM in response to VikingOSX

But that means, holding all updates in the system as well and off cause, iBA is not perfect at all, unfortunately it was never really supported by Apple and just ones in a while a bugfix was offered. How ever it was never be really developed.

I really don’t understand, why Apple supports Pages, which is by far not capable to perform such as iBA.

I give you an example ... just to erase 15 pages out of 1,500 pages takes 6h15 min.

During this time, your Pages is blocked on that MAC ... no multitask to open a parallel file for work.

Meanwhile I habe startet to work on 2 (sometimes on 3) Macs on separate projects, just to escape the endless „Beachball“.

It is like in the old iWorks times. .... Shame on Apple !

Oct 4, 2020 7:47 AM in response to wolfgang2

Apple's original design motive in creating Pages was for consumer, not professional document creation. A 1,500 page document is not a consumer category document, and attempting to use Pages with its inherent consumer-grade features, when you really need the professional-grade capabilities designed into MS Word (by example), has cost you 6h15m of valuable time.


If you believe that your time would be better invested in those third-party products whose feature set enhances, and does not detract from your productivity, then perhaps Pages (or even iBooks Author) is not the correct tool for you.

Oct 4, 2020 7:55 AM in response to VikingOSX

If you return to the original .... iBookAuthor ... was the right tool for professional bookwork.

I know that Pages was not made to be a professional tool, but why is Apple giving up all supports on professional software, wether it’s Grafics, Video or now literature ?

The only answer is .... money.

They don’t give a damm what users want ... they want the users, what they earn more money on.

Its a shame.

And .. yes I have to think about another platform.

When Apple turned from FCP7 into FCPX ... it was the same .... time for a change ... and that was a good decision.

Perhaps here it’s the same.

Oct 4, 2020 10:55 AM in response to lhenn_

It’s not just the features .... it’s the whole architecture.

Just changing a template on a 800 pages book brings the beachball for almost an hour ... and not enough, if you just want to change another tiny thing .... takes another beachball hour.... and so on.

Pages spend more time in building the miniture pages than to let you work. Multitasking is no topic in that program.

I have a whole list of bugs that don’t let you work, unless you spend hours of let the beachball spin.

This program is made for letters or small booklets but not for books.

Apple is not interested in the commercial users.

Again, it’s time to say goodbye.

Oct 4, 2020 11:11 AM in response to wolfgang2

That's why Pages is a text procession software and no professional DTP. Same for iBooks Author: It is made for iBooks and not Brochures, Flyers, Magazines, and I doubt, most iBooks (if we talk about percentages) have more than 200 pages. The time needed for procession is – of course – dependent on your computer's specifications.


My concern is that – due to the abrupt transition to Pages without the iBook tools – for example teachers, school administrators, etc. have no tool to create their proper books. Apple is the top supplier in education institutions here in Luxembourg & Belgium. If it's the goal to make teachers and students work with the iPads, etc., good iBooks with interactive materials are required.

You can't expect people to work with Apple hardware like the iPads in education, if Apple has no proper software to design the digital school books...


Apple is not interested in the commercial users: Yes, that's perhaps right on the DTP market (not in the video or audio market!). And I can understand that: There's Photoshop and InDesign working like a charm together. On the other side you have Serif with there Affinity suite. No need for Apple to develop their proper DTP software, as there are good working and widely established softwares. They wouldn't make much money out of that, because – just as explained with FCP7 – people keep working with the tools they always used and close their eyes for alternatives.

Sep 30, 2020 1:33 PM in response to VikingOSX

Thank you.

But did they mention somewhere/somehow, that those 'iBook' features will be implemented into Pages?

This is a quite important feature (or better: one important feature besides many others), as it is part of the iBooks format's 'soul'. Otherwise, without those features, iBooks will be no more than a text document – without interaction and usability in classes...


It's quite strange that they removed iBooks Author, but have no alternative for iBooks creation ready...

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