Can I connect my iMac (Late 2015) to a Lacie Rugged Raid Pro USB-C Drive with this adapter and a thunderbolt 2 cable via thunderbolt port? It does successfully connect via USB 3.0 but want to connect via Thunderbolt.

Can I connect my iMac (Late 2015) to a Lacie Rugged Raid Pro USB-C Drive with this adapter and a thunderbolt 2 cable via thunderbolt port? It does successfully connect via USB 3.0 but want to connect via Thunderbolt to take advantage of the faster transfer rate as every bit helps with video or photo editing.


Thanks.

Posted on Oct 10, 2020 8:39 PM

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Oct 11, 2020 6:59 PM in response to ekessle

If the only mention of Thunderbolt is "Works With USB 3.0, USB-C, Thunderbolt 3", then the drive is not Thunderbolt and will not work with a Thunderbolt 3 adapter. Thunderbolt 3 computer ports always work with both Thunderbolt and non-Thunderbolt USB-C devices, so that message on the side of the box doesn't mean anything about the drive being Thunderbolt.


The relevant line is "The USB-C port on the LaCie Rugged RAID Pro is USB 3.1 Gen 1". If it were Thunderbolt there would be a Lightning Bolt icon next to the port.

Oct 11, 2020 9:52 PM in response to ekessle

The drive is not Thunderbolt but will work connected to a computer's Thunderbolt 3 port. LaCie statement is correct about being compatible with Thunderbolt, but does not make clear that the drive itself is not a Thunderbolt drive.


While the drive can connect to a computer's Thunderbolt 3 port, it must be done with a non-Thunderbolt capable USB-C cable. The USB-C port on the drive will not work with a Thunderbolt-only cable, such as the one attached to the Thunderbolt 3 adapter.


There a several types of USB-C to USB-C cables. Some work only with Thunderbolt devices. Some work only with non-Thunderbolt devices, Some short (less than a metre) cables work with both. Some non-Thunderbolt cables can handle 3.1 Gen 2 up to 10Gb/s, some only 3.1 Gen 1 up to 5Gb/s. (All Thunderbolt 3 cables can handle 40Gb/s.). Also there are PD (Power Delivery) versions of each cable that can handle up to 5A (100 watts). Others are limited to 3A (60 warts).

Oct 11, 2020 2:37 PM in response to Old Toad

I copied and pasted from the support site. I will admit limited knowledge of Thunderbolt/USB C standards and whatnot. I will say upon reading quickly something about the port being USB C 3.1 Gen 1. No idea if that matters.


Cables and Connectors


USB-C protocols

USB is a serial input/output technology for connecting peripheral devices to a computer. USB-C is the latest implementation of this standard and it provides higher bandwidth and new power management features.

USB-C supports many protocols:


Thunderbolt 3 transfer rates up to 40Gb/s

USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 transfer rates up to 10Gb/s

USB-C 3.1 Gen 1 transfer rates up to 5Gb/s

SuperSpeed USB 3.0 transfer rates up to 5Gb/s

Hi-Speed USB 2.0 transfer rates up to 480Mb/s

The USB-C port on the LaCie Rugged RAID Pro is USB 3.1 Gen 1.


You can connect your Rugged RAID Pro to any USB-C or USB Type A port but transfer rates vary.

See below for more details.


Cables

Your LaCie hard drive is shipped with two cables for universal compatibility with modern computers.

USB-C to USB-C cable

For optimal transfer rates, use the USB-C to USB-C cable to connect your computer to the USB 3.1 Gen 1 port on LaCie Rugged RAID Pro.

Oct 11, 2020 8:43 PM in response to Malcolm J. Rayfield

I believe you. I appreciate your input. Can I ask you to elaborate on why it's not a Thunderbolt 3 drive? Perhaps I am misreading what you are saying, but from what I can tell, you are telling me that the fact that is says Thunderbolt 3 is misleading? I understand that there would be an icon on the drive, or now I do, but there was no way to know that by looking at the box.


I don't understand exactly what the difference here. The box says it works with Thunderbolt 3. I understand that upon further research, this drive won't work because it does not in fact work with Thunderbolt 3 or the adapter/combination is not the same as an actual Thunderbolt 3 port. This doesn't follow logically.


Feel free, if you wish, to tell me how I am being dense, because it's just not resonating. I totally accept that the line that you said is relevant demonstrates that it's not Thunderbolt 3. That seems like a technical certainty at this point. I just need to understand why I should have read that information on the side of the box and not thought that it would work with a Thunderbolt 3 port.


I take it you are saying all Thunderbolt 3 is USB-C, but not all USB-C is Thunderbolt 3. But I don't see where I went wrong believing that this drive would work based on its packaging? I know my issue at the moment is with LaCie and I plan on going down that path. I would just love to better understand going forward.


Would this drive work with a different imac? Like a newer one that doesn't need the adapter or cable? Or is this drive essentially worthless in terms of a higher speed connection from my standpoint?


Again, I hope it does not sound like I have any ill-will towards you. I am just frustrated and want to know that if I took the plunge and purchased a new machine, would it solve the issue. Thanks. I really do appreciate your help and my frustrations aren't at you at all. LaCie is on my list.


Cheers,

-e

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