Nausea dizziness

Hi, I've been having this same issue since about 2014 so not only tied to OLED. I noticed it first when Macbook got retina screens. I spent time with developers and the tech support team at Apple as I returned some very expensive machines and they were curious why. They put a few on the call because they were excited that I was 'one of those users'. I'm one of the users that can't watch first person video games or AR tools or watch real estate 3D home tours too fast without getting sick. I'm using the last of the non-Retina Macairs from 2015 while keeping a 2011 and 2012 Macbook alive!

The phone issue is getting more urgent for me though. I've been keeping a 5S alive but it will soon not work on the network anymore. I did a lot of research and thought the iPhone 11 might work for me -- I tried today and no luck. I was quite sick with in 5 minutes of using it. It is the carsickness others describe but it might also be a sinus/ear migraine.

Anyway, I just wanted to reassure that it isn't just you, it isn't in your head, and it isn't just Apple's products. I'll keep hunting for the answer for me!

Thank you. Evidently, the iPhone 13 Pro Max 256 is really bad. They have a case opened at Apple about this now, so please encourage anyone to call in about this problem. I have had 3 supervisors calling me about this today and one scheduled for tomorrow. I will check out the 11 pro. Does it work ok on the 5G network? So sad after waiting for this thing.

I am with you. This is my problem. My iPhone 7 Plus 256G has worked perfectly since I got it and not a scratch on it.

Apple says nothing wrong with my phone after running diagnostics. A carrier problem. Started 8/26/21 all my phone calls drop and the internet went from 568mbp down to .025 Mbps. I was with Sprint for 18yrs, no problem. However, kept having issues, so switched to Xfinity Mobile, same problem; then AT&T, a little better but dislike their customer service and still poor service. So I went back to Sprint/TMobile last week but still 5G network but working with a 4G phone.

But the problem is the SIM card is for 5G and all the towers near me are 5G now and my phone does not work on the 5G, so my last option was ordering the iPhone 13 Pro Max 256G.

But I cannot be this deadly sick every time I pick up the phone, so returned it. So not sure what I am going to do since I am a business owner and web designer.

I am seriously looking at getting a landline and leaving my iPhone 7 Plus on wifi calling. So crazy they cannot make a phone to use. I have to manage multiple accounts for authors on social media.

I am still waiting for my refund to be processed from Apple for the iPhone 13 pro max and since that day still having headaches every day. Apple says it is the 5G making us sick as why it is happening on the 12 and 13 iPhone models especially if you have 5G towers in your area and 5G carrier plan as I do.

I am going to try and order the iPhone 11 since it is still 4G LTE and see how it works. However my iPhone 7 Plus keeps dropping calls and horrible reception now with T Mobile new SIM card. Sounds like the iPhone 11 worked for you. Thanks. I would stay away from 12 and 13 with 5G.

It would be enlightening for you to read the responses to the original post that you just responded to.

Does your wife also have problem with some first person shooter games and 3D movies where glasses are used?

Pretty much the nervous system receives conflicting messages from visual and vestibular system in inner ears.

You know parts of the inner ear and brain that help control balance and eye movements.

Again… what did your doctors say? That is a pretty serious issue. Can you drive on curvy roads?

What iPhone do you have?

If it’s an iPhone X, XS, 11 Pro, 12, 12 Mini or 12 Pro, you could be suffering from the PWM (pulse-width modulation) system their OLED displays use to regulate brightness.

Basically the OLED pixels on iPhones flicker on and off very quickly, and the lower the brightness the faster the pixels flicker. This is how OLED iPhones regulate their screens’ brightness.

Now, this flickering is far too fast to see with the human eye, however some people (approx 1/10) can actually feel nauseous after extended use, you could be one of them.

From what I’ve read, Apple lessened this affect on the iPhone 11 Pro’s last year, however I don’t have any data on the newer models.

If this is in fact the issue, you may want to consider replacing the phone with an LCD model like the SE, XR or 11 as their screens are perfectly still.

I’ve noticed this as well and just put the two together. I just got an iPhone 12 pro max two weeks ago and I’ve been suffering from something like vertigo. Today I noticed when I was on my phone (I had not felt dizzy or nauseated for hours) I suddenly felt REALLY dizzy. I was actually holding my phone horizontally and reading it from there to not feel dizzy while looking at it. As soon as I put it down, I’m fine. I pulled out my old IPhone X and tried to see if it was just me and nope, No dizziness at all. I tried adjusting the motion and white point as well as brightness etc. but it didn’t help. I also noticed a slight warp effect when I turn it side to side. The same is on my husbands phone. Definitely going to return this because I can’t use it without getting dizzy.

I have had my iphone 12 pro for a bit over a week and Ive felt ill while using it. So much Ive stopped using it. I thought it was a bug or something. My shoulders are hurting as well as my stomach having issues. I thought maybe the extra weight was causing my shoulders. I wondered if the 5g can also be causing issues.

ItzYaBoiAsh wrote:

Buying blue light glasses could help. Blue light is the addicting but extremely-bad-for-you light that any sort of screen gives off.

This is complete nonsense. Blue light is not "addicting" and the amount of blue light from consumer electronics is not harmful.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/will-blue-light-from-electronic-devices-increase-my-risk-of-macular-degeneration-and-blindness-2019040816365

Blue light glasses are just a scam.

Sorry, but the article you posted does not say it is addicting nor extremely bad for you. You can activate a setting to shift the light of the iPhone screen from blue at night to avoid interference with sleep rhythms. Note the emphasize "may" in the article about other hazards. So far no study has definitively supported an extreme harm as Idris said.

I can pull an article from the ether and granularity still wouldn't be the point. It's unnecessary to call someone's honest contribution nonsense when nobody knows exactly what's making us terribly sick.

Something may not be of value to you, perhaps because you know everything, but some of us could be lead in the right direction while isolating this.

The appropriate response would be "im not aware of blue light causing..." Not "this is nonsense" when you don't know what someone's ability to articulate in english is, and it is well documented that blue light is indeed problematic.

Are you even being affected by this? Or are you defending a rude response just because?

Either way, the user you're helping dismiss has been more helpful to us in a single post than you have in several.