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Apple 4KTV Connected to TV vs Receiver?

What's better? To connect Apple 4KTV to my LG tv or to my Denon A/V receiver? I'm noticing that I can't use my LG remote to change channels on the 4KTV. The LG remote doesn't turn the Apple 4KTV off either. I've tried all sorts of fixes. Help?

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Posted on Jan 5, 2021 10:36 PM

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Posted on Jan 6, 2021 2:31 AM

Depending on you exact equipment, it can be functionally and quality-wise the same. Whatever works best for you.


Apple TV →[HDMI]→ TV →[HDMI-ARC]→ Receiver

Then the TV has to passthrough the audio.

You would select the HDMI port for Apple TV as input using the TV remote.

Possibly preferable when your TV has more HDMI inputs than the receiver.


Apple TV →[HDMI]→ AV Receiver →[HDMI-ARC]→ TV

Then the receiver has to passthrough the video.

Selecting the Apple TV instead of other HDMI devices would be done on the receiver.

Possibly preferable when your receiver has more HDMI inputs than the TV.

Preferable for Dolby Atmos setups, to avoid ARC use, as regular ARC doesn’t have have the bandwidth for the Dolby MAT signal that Apple TV outputs. (TVs with eARC are meant to solve this, to work in setup #1 too.)


If either the TV or receiver doesn’t have HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 ports, then that would have consequences that may make one option vastly superior to the other.

Use all HDMI cables certified for 18 Gbps to enable all HDMI 2.0 features. Lesser cables might restrict features.

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Jan 6, 2021 2:31 AM in response to jwegrzyn

Depending on you exact equipment, it can be functionally and quality-wise the same. Whatever works best for you.


Apple TV →[HDMI]→ TV →[HDMI-ARC]→ Receiver

Then the TV has to passthrough the audio.

You would select the HDMI port for Apple TV as input using the TV remote.

Possibly preferable when your TV has more HDMI inputs than the receiver.


Apple TV →[HDMI]→ AV Receiver →[HDMI-ARC]→ TV

Then the receiver has to passthrough the video.

Selecting the Apple TV instead of other HDMI devices would be done on the receiver.

Possibly preferable when your receiver has more HDMI inputs than the TV.

Preferable for Dolby Atmos setups, to avoid ARC use, as regular ARC doesn’t have have the bandwidth for the Dolby MAT signal that Apple TV outputs. (TVs with eARC are meant to solve this, to work in setup #1 too.)


If either the TV or receiver doesn’t have HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 ports, then that would have consequences that may make one option vastly superior to the other.

Use all HDMI cables certified for 18 Gbps to enable all HDMI 2.0 features. Lesser cables might restrict features.

Jan 6, 2021 4:40 AM in response to talalalrifai

talalalrifai wrote:
OLD:
Bad thing is, the control link between Apple TV and your screen is cut, so they do not turn on/off together.

The HDMI-CEC control link works across all HDMI devices in the chain. They don’t even have to be powered on to pass on the signal, per HDMI specification. Responding to the signal depends on (TV or receiver) device capabilities and settings, however.


NEW:
Bad thing is, you cannot hear the sound on your Denon A/V and your large speakers.

Many TVs can be set to passthrough the audio to the receiver, regardless of input.


B- If your Denon receiver accepts BlueTooth, …

Bluetooth is lossy compressed stereo, therefore inferior to wired, and a waste of a fine multichannel AV receiver.

Jan 6, 2021 12:24 AM in response to jwegrzyn

OLD:

It works to connect Apple TV -> Denon A/V -> LG screen

Good thing is you can take the sound on your Denon A/V and hence your speakers.

Bad thing is, the control link between Apple TV and your screen is cut, so they do not turn on/off together.


NEW:

Modern way, you link Apple TV -> Screen direct with an HDMI cable. This allows you to give orders to your TV through Apple TV device. When Apple TV turns on, the screen turns on automatically, you can even ask Siri (on HomePod or on your Siri Remote) to turn on/off the TV, it must work.

Bad thing is, you cannot hear the sound on your Denon A/V and your large speakers.

Possible solutions to hear good audio:

A- Ditch the A/V receiver (like I did) and put a pair of beautiful HomePods which compliment the set beautifully.

B- If your Denon receiver accepts BlueTooth, enable it, then pair it with your Apple TV, playing Apple TV you will see video on your screen and choose to hear music on your receiver. Problem is you need to pair it repeatedly.

C- Get an Apple Airport Express wifi extender. It has an Audio Output. Play audio from Apple TV to the Airport Express which in turn is connected to your AV receiver.

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