Hard drive running to slow

I have a 2017 iMac 21.5" which is running very slowly (especially Safari). Ran etrecheck and it reported that the 1GB HD was running at about a quarter of the acceptable speed, and suggested that I take the computer to the nearest Apple Store and get the HD replaced. Anybody have a ballpark figure on what that would cost? Trying to figure out whether I'd be better off just buying a new computer....


iMac 21.5″, macOS 11.2

Posted on Mar 7, 2021 3:05 PM

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Posted on Mar 8, 2021 10:52 AM

My local AASP is advertising $120 + drive for HDD replacement or $140 + drive for SSD replacements/upgrades.


Apple Stores seem to be limited to OEM parts, which cost more.


I would strongly advise against a simple HDD replacement. Any 2.5" 5400rpm HDD will likely be nearly as slow.


+1 for an external SSD.

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Mar 7, 2021 3:16 PM in response to dopollard4

Hi dopollard4,


The speeds for that hard drive are the acceptable speeds, but it might be slightly slower than normal. It is a very slow hard drive. You are better off buying a USB external SSD and running macOS off that. You will see about a 10 times speed improvement for storage.


If you want to proceed with the SSD, I recommend the: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HLRB2VC/A/g-technology-1tb-g-drive-mobile-ssd-r-series-storage?fnode=bf3b03e3682baa864343a19b606a186edb3d576b7a823e2e72119546b04d712dd19e34b765e00f01d9ecc42484bd9cdc53fab3c79524884df7259fafaabca00d042a1064e7dc1aa3ea54de2d4b27afb92189900a09ed2f311b759a705bba73e3. Also, Apple sells it, so Apple themselves trust the drive. It comes in 500GB, 1TB, and 2TB sizes. I can walk you through the steps in a separate post. (It will get too long in one.) If you get this drive, you will also need this cable: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/belkin-3-3-usb-type-c-to-usb-type-c-cable-works-with-chromebook-black/6288069.p?skuId=6288069.


Let me know your thoughts.


Cheers,


Jack

Mar 8, 2021 9:01 PM in response to jc415

I bought the same SSD last week. I installed macOS Big Sur on it and use it as the boot disk to overcome very slow iMac from the internal HDD. Using this requires lots of time and calls to Apple support to restore full use of Safari (bookmarks), Mail (mailboxes & saved emails), and general iMac OS settings. But it is a short term fix until I am vaccinated and feel safe to take my 2019 21.5 iMac to the Genius Bar at the local Apple store for them to run diagnostics.


There is definitely an internal problem with my iMac as the external SSD boot allows fast operation - including fast response to 3rd party Apps and data files stored on the internal hard drive. After all, I am using the same 3.6 Ghz and 1TB SATA HDD, but booting from SSD external eliminates slow problem.


An example of the speed problem is that it took over two hours to update macOS Big Sur. My wife's MacBook Air took 35 minutes. Installing Big Sur on the SSD external took about 30 minutes.



Mar 10, 2021 11:03 AM in response to dopollard4

David,


I was provided with this Apple support publication:


How to create a bootable installer for macOS

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372


I did not proceed further with the instructions after I downloaded the MacOS I selected onto my external solid-state drive.


At that point, I shut down the computer, then pressed the power button and immediately held down the Option key until about ten seconds after the Apple appeared on the screen. I selected the icon of the external drive, and MacOS on the external drive booted-up. From the desktop, I then had a lot of work to restore user setting for apps, such as Safari bookmarks, mail, and other misc. items.


My suggestion is to do none of this without direct help from Apple Support while you do these things. You have to ask for a senior adviser knowledgeable on this kind of setup. This has taken me a lot of time and help.



Mar 9, 2021 7:29 AM in response to Jack-19

Hi Jack! Thanks for your reply.


I have installed on the SSD external the 3rd party apps I use. And I have all of the MacOS apps in the /Applications/ folder.


I am able to quickly access files stored on the internal hard drive. So the internal hard drive works normally when the MacOS is booted from the SSD external, but the hard drive is very slow when I boot using the internal hard drive.


My SSD external is 1TB, which I have partitioned into a 100GB bootable MacOS, and a 900GB Time Machine partition the I use for Time Machine. When I back up using Time Machine, I back up the internal SATA hard drive. The reason I am doing it this way is when I take my iMac to the Genius Bar at the Apple store, they may want to wipe my hard drive clean and then install a fresh Big Sur. At the time, I would want them to restore from Time Machine. Having Time Machine backup on the SSD I can fit in my pocket is beneficial.


Incidentally, a total of 6 senior advisors from Apple Support have been involved in this setup. They have been on the phone and have screen shared when all this has been done.


The first senior adviser gave me three options:

#1 - Rollback to an earlier MacOS

#2 - Perform a clean install

#3 - Use an external solid state HD as a bootable drive.

#3 seemed to be the best option for me, and it has worked out well.


Btw, if I wanted to bypass the internal hard drive, I can simply use my other external HDD which I had previously copied all of my data files onto a week before. With two thunderbolt ports, I can use both external drives at the same time. I have actually done so as a test to know my options if the Genius Bar cannot resolve the issue. I plan to go there sometime after mid-May.


Again, thanks for your reply.


Mar 10, 2021 6:30 AM in response to Jack-19

If you can "walk me through" the steps to get set up with the SSD - I'd appreciate it.

(I did a chat session with an Apple Tech person who had me reset some setting on reboot - (Option+Cmd+[P}+[R]) which seems to have improved things from glacial to sluggish - but my 2015 MacBook Air still leaves this 2017 iMac in the dust, so it seems that the SSD route is the best to go.)



Thanks,

David Pollard

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