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how do you disable sorting without leading article?

music has the sort order where it removes the initial article, and this is not good, how can I disable it and make it sort the titles including any initial article as well?

MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Mar 27, 2021 11:48 AM

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Posted on Mar 28, 2021 1:52 AM

iTunes has had this feature for all of the 15 or so years that I have been using it, and it is considered the conventional way to sort music. There is a mechanism to supply your own sort criteria should you choose. Either you feel strongly enough about it to put in the effort required to have things the way that you want them, or you don't. Judging from my own 60,000 track library and using quickly constructed smart playlists to identify artists, album artists, and albums that have leading articles you might have around 25% of your library that would need editing if you want it to be consistent. If it were just track titles then around 5% of mine begin with an article. Doug's Scripts has a solution for Mac users, I've written one called UnAutoSort for Windows users. In each case thousands of tracks can be modified in a few minutes. Should you choose such an approach backup your library first, and test the process on a small number of tracks to familiarise yourself with the behaviour before applying in bulk. Some edits are not easily reversible.


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Mar 28, 2021 1:52 AM in response to gaetanosavoca

iTunes has had this feature for all of the 15 or so years that I have been using it, and it is considered the conventional way to sort music. There is a mechanism to supply your own sort criteria should you choose. Either you feel strongly enough about it to put in the effort required to have things the way that you want them, or you don't. Judging from my own 60,000 track library and using quickly constructed smart playlists to identify artists, album artists, and albums that have leading articles you might have around 25% of your library that would need editing if you want it to be consistent. If it were just track titles then around 5% of mine begin with an article. Doug's Scripts has a solution for Mac users, I've written one called UnAutoSort for Windows users. In each case thousands of tracks can be modified in a few minutes. Should you choose such an approach backup your library first, and test the process on a small number of tracks to familiarise yourself with the behaviour before applying in bulk. Some edits are not easily reversible.


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Mar 27, 2021 2:24 PM in response to gaetanosavoca

If, for example, you want to have The Beatles sorted under T rather than B then you need to manually enter The Beatles as the sort artist and sort album artist. You could potentially use this script https://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=mxthistagthattag to mechanise the propcess of copying the primary value to the sort value for selected tracks.


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Mar 28, 2021 9:55 AM in response to turingtest2

Here is some useless but (possibly) interesting information: In the ancient days of iTunes the ignoring of articles was controlled by a "SortPrefixes" file that was pre-popped according to language: a, an, the in English; le, la, les in French, etc. Here is an old post on the topic: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2302477?answerId=10916630022#10916630022


You could edit it if you wanted to change the behavior, but that could lead to odd behavior, e.g. if you wanted Die Walküre under W, you were going to get Die From a Broken Heart under F.


Use of the Sort fields gives much better control. Downside is it doesn't lend itself so well to mass changes, but hey, that is where scripting comes in.

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