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Any Advantages to Upgrading to WiFi 6\WPA3

I haven't thought about replacing my Airport Extreme 6 generation until I turned on the wifi on my iphone and saw a message the network wasn't secure. This because I still had APExtreme set to WPA/WPA2. Resetting to WPA 2 personal solved that.


I have three kids at home doing remote school, all on Chromebook along with several phones, Apple TV, printer etc. Everything seems to work with the exception of the kids occassionally losing the connection to school on their Chromebook.


Is it time to replace Airport Extreme with something like Netgear Orbing WiFi 6 AX4200 or is Airport still a good choice in routers.


I currently have a Comcast 200 mbps plan.



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Posted on Mar 28, 2021 12:33 PM

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Posted on Mar 28, 2021 12:59 PM

The AirPort Extreme will easily handle Internet connection speeds of up to 300-325 Mbps, so no advantage for a new router unless you plan to update your connection plan to 400+ Mbps.


WPA3 is more secure than WPA2, so there is that to consider. Users who want the highest security levels are buying WPA3 routers.


One question to consider might be how many WPA3 capable WiFi devices you already have that can use the new service. If half of your WiFi devices cannot handle WPA3, then there is probably no need to rush for a new router.


If you decide to go for a new router......AND......you need wider WiFi coverage range at your house, take a look at newer "mesh" systems.





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Mar 28, 2021 12:59 PM in response to Joe Gramm

The AirPort Extreme will easily handle Internet connection speeds of up to 300-325 Mbps, so no advantage for a new router unless you plan to update your connection plan to 400+ Mbps.


WPA3 is more secure than WPA2, so there is that to consider. Users who want the highest security levels are buying WPA3 routers.


One question to consider might be how many WPA3 capable WiFi devices you already have that can use the new service. If half of your WiFi devices cannot handle WPA3, then there is probably no need to rush for a new router.


If you decide to go for a new router......AND......you need wider WiFi coverage range at your house, take a look at newer "mesh" systems.





Mar 28, 2021 1:01 PM in response to Joe Gramm

Your AirPort is still a "good" router as long as it is working for you. Wi-Fi 6 and WPA3 are just starting to be introduced, and in order to fully take advantage of it, your wireless clients must also support these new standards. Just having a new wireless router alone will not be sufficient.


With that said, you will come across having to make a decision of going with non-Apple networking hardware at some point in the not too far distant future ... so now is a good time to start your research on what is currently available out there. For that, I suggest starting with reviewing router reviews at the SmallNetBuilder site.


FYI, the "Apple" warning is actually referring to the cryptology level of the wireless security being used. WPA can only use TKIP. WPA2 can use both TKIP or AES, with the latter being more secure. When you switched to WPA2 Personal on your AirPort, it then uses AES.

Mar 28, 2021 1:03 PM in response to Joe Gramm

WiFi 6 (AX) is the next standard.. from now most of the new client devices you buy are equipped with AX cards. And over the next few years more and more devices will come out with AX. So yes, I think the point has been reached where buying AX makes sense.


Airports ceased production nearly 3 years now. So you cannot purchase them other than second hand anyway.

An AX router should give you better wifi signal and range.


Everything seems to work with the exception of the kids occassionally losing the connection to school on their Chromebook.


The alternative for a big house with poor signal in some places is mesh. The model you have proposed is a mesh version although the spell checker has converted Orbi to Orbing for some reason. Netgear Orbi is a good series of mesh products.. but do read how they perform vs others on the market. You can buy mesh in AC (WiFi 5) or AX (WiFi 6) versions. Many mainline routers do now also have mesh add ons.. but it is seldom as good as the genuine built from ground up Mesh.

Read reviews yourself for what brand and model to buy.

Here is one I use regularly from a hands on guy.

https://dongknows.com/best-wi-fi-6-mesh-systems/


Mar 28, 2021 1:37 PM in response to LaPastenague

The issue with dropped connections on the Chromebook is confusing because most of the time the connection drops, the WiFi signal is strong. So I don't know how to tell if it's the WiFi or on the schools end.


I have read reviews from both dongknows and SmallNetBuilder.


Thank you to the 3 of you. You reassured me my Airport Extreme can still work for the near future, but let the research begin for a new Mesh router at some point.


Mar 28, 2021 1:43 PM in response to Joe Gramm

The issue with dropped connections on the Chromebook is confusing because most of the time the connection drops, the WiFi signal is strong. So I don't know how to tell if it's the WiFi or on the schools end.


WiFi signal "strength" is important, but it only tells half of the story. You also need to know about the "noise" present in the signal, and the simple things like the WiFi "bars" or something that says "Excellent Connection" cannot be relied upon.....because they tell you nothing about the noise that might be present in the signal.


If you have a Mac laptop, and want a few tips on how to find out what the Signal-to-Noise (SNR) on the connection might be, post back for more details.

Mar 28, 2021 2:06 PM in response to Bob Timmons

I have an older iMac running Sierra with only an external drive connected, so that might work. It's pouring out now on Cape Cod and it's in another building so I couldn't do it now. My other 27" iMac in the house has multiple wired devices attached, so no way on that one.


Although, the 27" iMac is located within 30' of the Chrombooks that get dropped connections.


The iMac is located within 3' of the router and about the same distance to powered desktop speakers and 2 external disk drives.

Mar 28, 2021 3:59 PM in response to Joe Gramm

The whole idea is to move the iMac as close as possible to the location of each of the Chromebooks so that we can get a reading on the signal to noise quality that the Chromebook is receiving at its current location.


So, if you have 3 Chromebooks for example, in 3 different locations, the iMac will need to be moved to each of those locations so readings can be taken at each of the 3 locations. If there are other locations where the Chromebooks are normally used....like the kitchen table for example, then readings will need to be taken there as well.


The bottom line is that we will be taking a survey of the signal quality at each of the locations where a Chromebook will be used. That will mean moving the iMac to various locations around the house.


There are no guarantees we will be able to improve things things after we have the results of the survey, but you will know a lot more about your WiFi network.


It's your call if you want to try this.


Mar 28, 2021 5:24 PM in response to Bob Timmons

Bob, thank you. If I had a Mac laptop, I'd be more inclined to try it. With the iMac, I'm envisioning having to reboot the iMac in each location because of having top plug it in. Although it would be interesting to know more about the noise on the network, the dropped connections don't happen everyday. So for now I will hold off on your generous offer.


I think it's safe to say the drops are probably a result of noise, if in fact the reason is my network and not the schools.


You also helped with whether to replace the Airport Extreme.





Mar 28, 2021 8:24 PM in response to Joe Gramm

Joe Gramm wrote:

The issue with dropped connections on the Chromebook is confusing because most of the time the connection drops, the WiFi signal is strong. So I don't know how to tell if it's the WiFi or on the schools end.

Remember Wi-Fi is a two-way communication. The AirPort may be able to provide a "strong" signal to the Chromebook, but the latter may not be able to "shout" back depending on where it is located relative to the base station, and the quality of the wireless "card" built-in that Chromebook ... I would suspect it not to be too great. As such, you may find better overall wireless performance between these two devices with the Chromebook in the same room as the base station.

Mar 28, 2021 8:47 PM in response to Tesserax

That's a good point. One of the Chromebook has been in the same room as the base station when the connection is lost. It seems the Chromebook can reconnect without issue. I think I'll check one of them and see if it says anything about the WiFi card. It's unlikely though because since they are from the school, a lot of what you could normally check is disabled, like a system report for example.


My daughter furthest away from the base station virtually never complains about the connection. So could this mean the two Chromebooks closest to the base station could be suffering from the "noise" that Bob Timmons is talking about.

Any Advantages to Upgrading to WiFi 6\WPA3

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