I want to update to 11.2.3 on the Mac mini

1) When I attempt to log into my Mac mini late 2014 with the wifi ON and an admin, then it jiggles & won't let me log in; however, IF I turn OFF the airport (on Macmini), then I can log in with an Admin — StdUser has no problems either way. Verified passwords on several admins, & tried several times with the same results — Why?


2) IF I hit "Update" Now in sysPrefs pane, then it suggests "macOS Big Sur 11.2.3 11.2.3", which strikes me as ODD (to repeat 11.2.3, never seen that before). So I am unsure whether to update this way, or to wipe & fresh install?


Also, I am running BootCamp with latest Win10 running (when booted for wife to work at home). But now I want to update to 11.2.3 on the Mac side, & I am now leery that something security wise is corrupted, and would prefer convenience, but will wipe|fresh-install IF necessary. Just am wondering IF anyone else has encountered this, & what they did to fix it?


Running:


AirPort AC Extreme(last model produced)

software version 7.9.1


System Version: macOS 11.1 (20C69)

Kernel Version: Darwin 20.2.0


Model Name: Mac mini

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac-mini-core-i5-2.6-late-2014-specs.html

Model Identifier: Macmini7,1

Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Core i5

Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz

Number of Processors: 1

Total Number of Cores: 2

L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB

L3 Cache: 3 MB

Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled

Memory: 16 GB

System Firmware Version: 428.0.0.0.0

SMC Version (system): 2.24f32


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Posted on Apr 10, 2021 4:02 PM

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Apr 12, 2021 10:30 PM in response to cp from OH

cp from OH, your comments jogged my memory about an article titled, "How to use safe mode on your Mac", https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201262. But before doing that, I checked the Login Items on both of my admin user accounts. I found that one had "Norton Security VPN" as a startup, and the other admin user had NO startup logins.


When I proceeded to startup in Safe Mode, then both of my admin users could login without any troubles whatsoever, so given the information above, I am not sure what could have been the problem, Norton 360 Security software or something else. I know that Norton can get in the way occasionally when making changes to (3rd party) software, but I don't fault it so much as it has, I believe (over time), been a great benefit to the family's online experience.


I try to regularly backup via Time Machine all of our computers, so it is not so much trouble to wipe|fresh-install, and it has saved our butts on occasion by preserving some of our personal favorite data; still, I prefer an install in place IF possible.


"How to use safe mode on your Mac", https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201262, (circa Jan.2018) used to contain this information:

"Safe Mode (sometimes called safe boot) is a way to start up your Mac so that it performs certain checks and prevents some software from automatically loading or opening. Starting your Mac in safe mode does the following:

• Verifies your startup disk and attempts to repair directory issues, if needed

• Loads only required kernel extensions (kexts are being deprecated by Apple)

• Prevents startup items and login items from opening automatically

• Disables user-installed fonts

• Deletes font caches, kernel cache, and other system cache files"


I realize that some of the information is dated (or being made obsolete via technological advances, eg, Apple Silicon), but as a long-time Apple consumer|user (beginning 1985, with all kinds of Apple products), our family have enjoyed the durability of the Apple products & the simplicity of the Apple ecosystem.


I have also enjoyed being able to at least make a strong conjecture as to the source of problems when they come up, and to make my way to a work around, or better yet, a resolution to the hang up, with the available online resource materials — IF one is willing to take the time to become educated, though, one still must disengage from the emotional side of the problem, & look at it objectively (easier said than done).


Sorry for the rant — I believe that updating is the next best thing (possibly via Safe Boot), and will let you know how things turn out.


Apr 13, 2021 7:41 PM in response to ryane77

i_rina, cp from OH, ryane77, & the community: "Thank You" for the prompt & probing questions to help me focus more precisely on some of the particular aspects of the issues.


I have been slow to respond just to give the system time to verify the stability of the solution. I did update to "macOS Bit Sur 11.2.3 11.2.3", via System Preferences Software Update, and all of the inconsistencies have disappeared (without removing the Norton 360 security software). Consequently, I consider the two issues resolved, & case closed.


For one thing, it was a voyage of discovery, where bits & pieces of information come to light as one goes thru the process, & then these are applied to the problem; so apologies not needed (but still appreciated), it is a partnering effort that gets one to the final destination. Again, Thank You for all the continuing effort to help others through their Apple computer problems.


Apr 12, 2021 1:49 PM in response to adjudicate

We appreciate the clarification upon the issues you're facing adjudicate,


Updating is always a great steps that can help resolve many issues. Prior to updating try disabling, or removing any login items. These would be apps that would automatically start to load upon logging in to your user account, and this may be contributing to the issue you're facing. You can disable login items by going in to System Preferences > Users & Groups, click on your Admin user account, followed by Login Items. If any Login items exist click the padlock towards the bottom left if needed to unlock System Preferences, then click the Login Items one at a time, followed by the minus sign just below the items list to remove them.


Let us know the results of removing the Login Items and updating. Have a great day.

Apr 13, 2021 7:00 AM in response to adjudicate

There's no need to apologize adjudicate,


With not having any login items, and not having any issues when booting in to safe mode, that's a good indication the issue is software related. Since having this issue have you disabled the Norton antivirus? If not, disable the antivirus to see if that makes a difference. If it doesn't, do you recall installing any app or software immediately prior to this issue happening? If so, what happens if that software is removed? If no software was immediately installed, or the issue continues the next step would be to contact Apple. You can find their contact details via the Get Support website.


Take care!

Apr 12, 2021 9:24 AM in response to adjudicate

Hello adjudicate,


It sounds as though you're having issues logging in to your Admin user account when connected to a Wi-Fi network, and having issue with updating macOS as well.


From the information you provided you're running macOS 11.1 currently. Performing the available update is recommended, and would remove the prompt that you have an update available.


How to update the software on your Mac


With the issue you're facing logging in to your user account are you attempting to log in to the user account, or attempting to connect to your Wi-Fi network? Does this happen when attempting to connect to all Wi-Fi networks? After updating macOS does the issue continue?


We look forward to the additional details.

Apr 14, 2021 6:22 AM in response to adjudicate

With some afterthought about ways to see what was happening, I remembered that I also had Alsoft's DiskWarrior to repair the file permissions with, etc, and could have also used it in a pinch, IF the system ever became unbootable in order to save data files (extreme case).


And for those who may want something more elaborate than Time Machine, they could use also Bombich's Carbon Copy Cloner to manage their data needs, where the backup is bootable IF necessary in a production environment. I have used both, and they are excellent, specialized utilities for problematic cases.


I am a little outdated & rusty with current operating system trends, so these ideas came slowly as a means to an end of bringing the OS back into proper operation; however, I also thought it was important to pick the brains of the community for any changes that I might not be current with (just in case — security is not my forte).


Apr 12, 2021 9:54 AM in response to adjudicate

Actually, I am experiencing TWO different oddities:


1) IF i am attempting to log in to the macOS Big Sur with an admin user, and the wifi is enabled, it prevents me from doing so (jiggles,etc). Once the wifi is disabled (by logging in with a standard user & disabling wifi, logging out &), then I have no trouble logging in as an admin user.


2) Should software update (system preferences) show "macOS Big Sur 11.2.3 11.2.3" (with the stutter #)? I generally log in as an admin user to do all of my software updates, but do most of my work as a standard user, so I was surprised to see that I could NOT log in as an admin user while the wifi is enabled. Should I be concerned?

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