Unusually high latency in Logic Pro X

I have been using Logic Pro X for years and just the other day encountered a new issue. When I opened Logic to a new project, the latency was unusually high - 243ms roundtrip. I checked all my settings and nothing is different than usual. Low Latency mode is on, and my I/O buffer size is at 32. I cannot seem to do anything to make the latency go below 243ms. My MIDI and headphones are the same as usual as well. Any guidance to lower the latency would be appreciated.

MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Apr 13, 2021 10:28 PM

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Posted on Apr 14, 2021 1:29 PM

Just to be sure: there is no Bluetooth involved anywhere? 200 ms and more is the typical latency that bluetooth has.


So, the next question is: what is your hardware setup? Which interface? Monitors? Headphones? MIDI controllers?

Also: what happens if you switch your Logic audio deviceto built in sound of your Mac?

Also: do you have any internal audio routing software installed, like Soundflower or Blackhole or others? Or any other audio processing app?

It is indeed absurdly high, and since Logic actually reports it it, LLM won't do anything.

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Apr 14, 2021 1:29 PM in response to kmk2991

Just to be sure: there is no Bluetooth involved anywhere? 200 ms and more is the typical latency that bluetooth has.


So, the next question is: what is your hardware setup? Which interface? Monitors? Headphones? MIDI controllers?

Also: what happens if you switch your Logic audio deviceto built in sound of your Mac?

Also: do you have any internal audio routing software installed, like Soundflower or Blackhole or others? Or any other audio processing app?

It is indeed absurdly high, and since Logic actually reports it it, LLM won't do anything.

Apr 13, 2021 10:50 PM in response to kmk2991

Hi Again,

If you are using a lot of plug-ins, this will affect the session.


I have spent a fair amount of time with this subject and I believe there are a number of things that will allow you to optimize your workflow.


Understanding Buffer Size and using it accordingly (Low when Recording, High When Mixing/Listening)

Freezing Tracks

Printing/Bouncing Tracks to Audio

Utilizing Bus/Sends/Aux Tracks for proper distribution of FX

Bypassing Plug-ins when unsure if you would like to use them

Turning off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth if possible when working on Music

Turning off other programs that may inhibit performance


Really learning to utilize plug-ins is also important. For example, you can apply an EQ to every track to Low Cut/High Pass but you can also use "Selection Based Processing" to cover the same job without over-utilizing plug-in processing.


This kind of care and responsibility will give you a great user experience. I have been doing this work now for over 7 years and the last couple of years, I have had 0 issues by implementing the information above.


Hope this helps and solves your query,

Eddie G.

Apr 14, 2021 3:33 PM in response to kmk2991

Stop using LLM just because you can, read my post that Eddie pasted, use it only when you need it.

I think Eric nailed it, what is set as your "Input Device" in Logic's Preferences/Audio

Also, running at a 32 buffer because you can is not wise, 64 or 128 will give a lot more breathing room.

It's possible the session became corrupted, or that Logic's Preferences file needs to be rebuilt.

Apr 13, 2021 10:48 PM in response to kmk2991

Hi there,

This is an advanced answer. I will also give you the options in another thread.


From a recent thread:


PanCenter

Also, regarding Low Latency mode, it has a very specific purpose.


Low Latency Mode checkbox and Limit slider: You need to select the Low Latency Mode checkbox in order to activate Low Latency mode and use the Limit slider. The Limit slider lets you determine a maximum amount of allowable delay that can be caused by plug-ins when Low Latency mode is enabled (by clicking the Low Latency Mode button on the Transport bar). In Low Latency mode, plug-ins are bypassed to ensure that all delays (across the entire signal flow of the current track) remain under the Limit slider value. This is useful when you want to play a software instrument with several latency-inducing plug-ins inserted in the channel.


Low Latency mode allows you to limit the maximum delay time caused by plug-ins. Plug-ins will be bypassed to ensure that the maximum delay that can occur across the entire signal flow (of the current track) remains under the chosen value. The Low Latency mode is extremely useful when you need to play a software instrument (or to monitor through an audio channel) when plug-ins with high latencies are already in use—at any point in the signal flow for the selected track/channel.

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Most new Logic users think it's some magic tool, that lowers latency to a minimum, that's completely off the mark, if left on it can destroy a mix. It has a very specific function. You should spend time learning Logic's Preferences, you will never regret having a working knowledge of Logic's Preferences (global) and Logic's Project Settings (project specific).


Hope this helps and solves your query,

Eddie G.

Apr 14, 2021 1:23 PM in response to EddieGrey

Hi Eddie,


I appreciate the feedback, but I have only one instrument loaded into Kontakt on one track, zero other plugins loaded, and absolutely nothing programmed into the track. This is occurring at the very beginning of a new project. Removing the instrument changes nothing, deleting the entire track changes nothing, and taking off LLM changes nothing. The latency is still 243ms, which according to the other threads I have already previously read through while researching this issue prior to inquiring myself is unusually high. This is how the new, completely empty project opened. The implication that I have not taken the time to learn how things work is rather patronizing, as I mentioned I have also been using Logic for years, and I have been troubleshooting and optimizing for several days to attempt to change things. This is a new problem that I have not encountered before, even with the project I was working on just before opening this new one.

Apr 14, 2021 1:50 PM in response to Eriksimon

Thanks for the clarifying questions! I have Bluetooth audio-technica headphones set up, which I also thought might be the issue, except that I have been using these for quite some time on other projects with no problems. This is the first project where this has happened. At present, I have disconnected my AI to try to remove other potential issues (currently set the built-in mic for the input device), have one second monitor connected via HDMI, and am using my usual Nektar Impact MIDI controller. So it seems like the only issue might be the Bluetooth headphones like you mentioned, but I cannot reason why they are causing an issue now but not when I have used them in the past. Thoughts?

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