Quality loss after export

Hello,


I'm working on a release trailer for a project (based on screen recordings) and I have a problem with blurry exports.


My export settings are as follows:

• Format: Computer

• Video Codec: H.264 Better Quality

• Resolution: 1920 x 1080


The 1st image shows a full 1080p frame from the exported file (seen in QuickTime).

The 2nd image shows an area of this frame.

The 3rd image shows the same area from the source material (as seen in Final Cut, before export).


As you can see, the first two are far more blurry.

What can I do to keep the quality from degrading so drastically?


Many thanks.


Exported (1080p full frame)


Exported (area)


Source (same area)

e.g. red signals can be seen


iMac Line (2012 and Later)

Posted on May 17, 2021 7:18 AM

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Posted on May 18, 2021 12:31 AM

Transcoding never “improves” an image. But it may prevent further degradation, depending on what effects are applied. In this case, it may or may not help, because the problem does not seem to due to effects but rather to footage that is hard to compress.


I think you probably need to export with a higher data rate. Since you don’t have control over the data rate when exporting from FCP, you can either use Compressor or export a Master File in ProRes and then convert it with ffmpeg or HandBrake.

It is not that hard, either way.

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May 18, 2021 12:31 AM in response to coxorange

Transcoding never “improves” an image. But it may prevent further degradation, depending on what effects are applied. In this case, it may or may not help, because the problem does not seem to due to effects but rather to footage that is hard to compress.


I think you probably need to export with a higher data rate. Since you don’t have control over the data rate when exporting from FCP, you can either use Compressor or export a Master File in ProRes and then convert it with ffmpeg or HandBrake.

It is not that hard, either way.

May 17, 2021 9:57 AM in response to coxorange

I see your point now. There obvious artifacts in the export. Like Ian, I had missed them at first.


Even the image from FCP is very bad.

What is the original codec of your image? What is the source? iPhone? Some other camera? Can you open the original in Quicktime Player, press Command-I and post a screenshot showing the video settings?


You may try optimizing this media, and see how that goes.


May 18, 2021 7:13 AM in response to coxorange


What would you say is the maximum rate which is still streamable?

It's hard to say. Are you streaming from a website that you control, or from, say, youtube? If the latter, then you have no control over what they will do with your image, and even if you send them the most gorgeous output, they always recompress on the server side. For material like this, I dare say it will never look good.


The other big unknown is the access speed of your viewers. Even if you are in control of the server side, and offer a beatiful high data rate file, your stream may stall on the client side.

May 17, 2021 9:53 AM in response to Ian R. Brown

Thank you.

I made sure that all three images above are from the exact same frame.

Even when I compare both full frames (without enlarging) it is such a difference.

It is clear during the playback that the entire film has a much lower quality after the export.

(I enlarged the areas to make it more visible how much detail is lost.)

So is there anything I could do?


If it would help I could supply more frames for comparison.


May 17, 2021 10:48 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Thank you Luis.

The source material are Capto screen recordings.

(Before using Capto I tried ScreenFlow, but the performance was inferior.)

By "optimizing" – do you mean importing while FCP creates these large files for easier editing?

I did this years ago, but singe Macs became more powerful it was no longer required.

So in this case the original 1.22GB file (and other similar ones) are just referenced.

Or has optimizing other advantages which I don't know?

Here's the information you had asked for (from QT & Invisor):




May 17, 2021 2:32 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1

1. Before trying optimized files, I searches for official information and could only find this:


  • Create optimized media: This option transcodes video to the Apple ProRes 422 format, which provides better performance during editing, faster render times, and better color quality for compositing. If the original camera format can be edited with good performance, this option is dimmed.


In this description there is no hint that it would improve the quality of export. Why do you think that it could?


2. Regarding variable frame rate:

I once used HandBrake (I still have version Version 1.0.0 (2016122400)/Mac App Store installed), but found it difficult to use (which options to use or better not to use was always the question). So unfortunately I would need more help how this would work.


On the other hand, I already use the following (via Terminal) to remove doubled frames (which sometimes occur) from screen recordings:


ffmpeg -i in.mov -vf mpdecimate,setpts=N/FRAME_RATE/TB out.mov


Probably there is just an additional parameter required to fix the frame rate?


3. Yes, you are right: foliage (like sea/waves) is difficult for screen recording. Additionally it is a fast tracking shot! (camera follows the tracks) Therefore the data rate is so high, probably also because the screen recording should not use a lot of the cpu power just for higher compression – which could have an impact on the 3D graphics rendering app which works at the same time.

May 18, 2021 5:35 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Thanks for your answer.


> Transcoding never “improves” an image.


Yes, I didn't mean that, I just wondered if it could improve the end result. I guess I will have to try it.


I'm still trying to find out what's the combined ffmpeg code for removing doubled frames and to get a fixed frame rate. I learned that for changing the frame rate the video would have to be reprocessed.


> you probably need to export with a higher data rate


What would you say is the maximum rate which is still streamable?


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