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Does MBA M1 support USB UASP?

I just got my MBA M1, base model with 8GB RAM and 256GB HDD and an external SSD drive Samsung T7 1TB. The promised speed is up to 1050MB/sec according to USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps).  According to supplied info the system needs to support UASP to achieve full speed.


I have searched a lot online and have found some info about Apple M1 and low USB transfer speeds. According to Black Magic I get around 650 MB/sec, quite some difference from the "promised" 1050MB/sec.


Under  > About This Mac > System Report > Software > Extensions I can't find IOUSBAttachedSCSI what I understad is needed for UASP. My SSD drive is connected directly to the computer with the USB3 cable that came with the drive.


Should a M1 Mac also have this extension or is this just an ”intel” feature? Can this be related to the slow USB transfer speed issue?


Big Sur ver 11.3.1


Sincerely,

pblix

MacBook Air (2020 or later)

Posted on May 24, 2021 9:43 AM

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Posted on May 24, 2021 12:27 PM

The slow NVme USB speeds is a fairly wide spread issue on the new M1

Macs and does not seem to have anything to do with protocols but

how the Thunderbolt4/USB4 ports are configured.


The folks at OWC have been taking a look at the issue and have discovered

some interesting things. They have two blog postings. The first is where

they discovered some things and the second even further research into

the phenomenon;

https://eshop.macsales.com/blog/74383-faster-drive-performance-with-m1-mac/

the second:

https://eshop.macsales.com/blog/74383-faster-drive-performance-with-m1-mac/


Proves to be some eye opening reading.

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May 24, 2021 12:27 PM in response to pblix

The slow NVme USB speeds is a fairly wide spread issue on the new M1

Macs and does not seem to have anything to do with protocols but

how the Thunderbolt4/USB4 ports are configured.


The folks at OWC have been taking a look at the issue and have discovered

some interesting things. They have two blog postings. The first is where

they discovered some things and the second even further research into

the phenomenon;

https://eshop.macsales.com/blog/74383-faster-drive-performance-with-m1-mac/

the second:

https://eshop.macsales.com/blog/74383-faster-drive-performance-with-m1-mac/


Proves to be some eye opening reading.

May 24, 2021 10:19 AM in response to a brody

Thanks for your reply.


I'm not sure if a fully understand your last sentence. Do I interpret you correctly that M1 Macs don´t support UASP or is the extension IOUSBAttachedSCSI not needed to get UASP on a M1 Mac?


What I understand Apple added native support for UASP in Mountain Lion->


Sorry if I have misunderstood.

May 24, 2021 11:02 AM in response to pblix

Based on what limited info I have, Apple must have dropped it as soon as they added it, because only 3 OS releases later the link I posted shows it is not built-in anymore.


Only four Mac OS X versions, all PowerPC had true SCSI support built-in. 10.0, 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3. After 10.2.8, no Mac OS X could be installed on a beige G3 or 10.3.9 on a so-called Lombard Powerbook G3 with built-in 30 pin SCSI.


USB ported SCSI drivers weren't there on 10.11 according to the link I posted in my reply.


So I would imagine any SCSI support whether it is PCI card based, or USB based will have to come from the third party drivers.

Driver support on Catalina and later are much different than 10.8 to 10.11, as Apple made the whole operating system 64 bit. Your M1 can't be downgraded to a 32 bit operating system.

May 24, 2021 12:23 PM in response to tbirdvet

That's interesting. Sounds like something is either underpowered in the USB bus, or draining some of its bandwidth.


Apple menu -> About This Mac -> System Report -> Hardware -> USB will help you determine what else is on the bus.

Anything slower than your current USB on the same bus will cut the bandwidth of USB.


USB also is affected by the processor speed. Thus if you are using a lot of processor bandwidth to adapt to Rosetta in the background, you could be slowing yourself down.

May 24, 2021 1:48 PM in response to a brody

a brody wrote:

I miss the days of Firewire. ...

USB-C may have been a good idea to only have one connector

fits all but having one interface that has to support a myriad of protocols

and support a variety of powering capabilities is just creating a world

of complexity and with it a huge number of opportunities for things to

not work up to snuff and just outright fail. USB itself has blown out to almost

a dozen differing protocols all of which need to be cross compatible, i.e.

USB 2 devices still have to work with USB 4.

Does MBA M1 support USB UASP?

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