Is it possible to keep the original photo when using the photos app?

I have intentionally avoided using the photos app because it seems to change the photos. All I want is the original photo. I don't want cute automated albums. no face recognition, no location grouping, and I don't want to waste hard drive space with thumbnails. I just want my original photos.


If this possible using the photos app? Can I take photos on my iPhone and transfer the original files to my Mac using the photos app? I used to do this with Image Capture, but it's not working anymore.

iPhone XS Max

Posted on Jul 9, 2021 2:27 PM

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Posted on Jul 10, 2021 1:31 AM

So.


Why do you need to correct the dates? Why do you need to mess with the filename? Tell me you are not going into the photos library structure to get the files out of the "originals" folder. If so then you are getting all you ask for. The contents of the library structure is hidden for a reason. It is not intended for user access.


If you have the files in photos via iCloud.


Select them in the photos app.

Go to file>export unmodified original

Choose a folder to put them in.


You will get the original file with the original date and original filename in the folder.


Then delete it from the photos app (USING THE APP, not using finder in the originals folder) Job done.

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Jul 10, 2021 1:31 AM in response to vickishome

So.


Why do you need to correct the dates? Why do you need to mess with the filename? Tell me you are not going into the photos library structure to get the files out of the "originals" folder. If so then you are getting all you ask for. The contents of the library structure is hidden for a reason. It is not intended for user access.


If you have the files in photos via iCloud.


Select them in the photos app.

Go to file>export unmodified original

Choose a folder to put them in.


You will get the original file with the original date and original filename in the folder.


Then delete it from the photos app (USING THE APP, not using finder in the originals folder) Job done.

Jul 9, 2021 11:13 PM in response to vickishome

Image Capture works just like it always did. Turn off iCloud. Then that whole rigamarole of


upload the photos from my iPhone to iCloud, download them from iCloud to my Mac, run A Better Finder Attributes to correct the dates, and then run Exif Viewer on my iPhone to get the original file name (IMG_9999), and then use that info to manually change the names on the photo files.


becomes unnecessary. But here's a thing: you're confusing file dates and photo dates and they are not the same thing. You're trying to bend the Finder (a file manager) into a Photo manager. Photgraphs track the date of the image in Exif metadata. The file manager doesn't work with Exif. It's perfectly possible and legitimate to have a different file date from the photo date. That's one reason to use a photo manager.


How many files would I end up with?


It doesn't matter.


When the Photos.app takes my original photo, it is moving that original into it's multi-multi-multi file structure or does it make a copy (so that's 2 files).


It makes a copy. So the obvious thing is, after importing to the database you delete it from your own file structure. Going forward, as you import directly from your camera/phone, that step becomes unnecessary. So, one file.


Then it makes the thumbnail (3 files).


So what? You never see or meet that file. It's tiny. Takes negligible amounts of space. It's just a tool to help you browse your images quickly and easily.


When I export the original photo into a folder, does it remove all the other files or would I then have a total of 4 files?


Why would you export it? What purpose? Once it's fulfilled that purpose delete the exported copy. The master is still in Photos. See?


If I chose to delete the photo from the photo app, will it erase all the extraneous files or will I need to search for them manually to delete them?


If you delete a photo from Photos all the versions and thumbnails are deleted as well.


Consider the Contacts App. It's the front end for all your contacts and their details. You never see the database behind it. If you need an address or phone number, launch Contacts, search it and there it is. It shares the information to other apps like your email client. What goes on behind the scenes doesn't matter. If you want to add an address or change one you don't go looking for the DB behind the scenes, you launch Contacts and do it there.


Same with Photos. It's the front end for all your photographs. You never see the database behind it. If you want a photo you launch it and search. There's the photo. It can share the images to other apps without ever exporting - or you can export if you like. But what goes on behind the scenes doesn't matter. The number of files doesn't matter. It's all just a lot more simple than you think.







Jul 9, 2021 8:53 PM in response to vickishome

As it is now, I'm having to upload the photos from my iPhone to iCloud, download them from iCloud to my Mac, run A Better Finder Attributes to correct the dates, and then run Exif Viewer on my iPhone to get the original file name (IMG_9999), and then use that info to manually change the names on the photo files. That's insane. But in the end, I get the original dates and filenames which I use to manage my photos.


There has to be a better way. Image Capture did all of this perfectly. I have no idea why Apple chose to scrap a very simple and clean app in leu of a convoluted conglomeration of photo apps that take away all of the user's control -- as if I'm too stupid to handle photo files; I've been doing it for decades; I didn't suddenly become too inept to do it now.


And why do they insist on changing the filename and dates?


I want my original photo files transferred to my Mac intact. I want Apple to get their hands off my files.

Jul 9, 2021 9:06 PM in response to TonyCollinet

Photos app is a database. It takes your original, puts it in the database, creates thubmbnails and previews and a whole data structure around them. It doesn't change the originals - or at least you can export them unchanged.


You can if you choose export the origianls from photos into a folder and then delete them from the photos app.


How many files would I end up with? When the Photos.app takes my original photo, it is moving that original into it's multi-multi-multi file structure or does it make a copy (so that's 2 files). Then it makes the thumbnail (3 files). When I export the original photo into a folder, does it remove all the other files or would I then have a total of 4 files? If I chose to delete the photo from the photo app, will it erase all the extraneous files or will I need to search for them manually to delete them?


I need an app that can grab the photos from my phone and be done with it. And I don't want 2, 3, 4 or more copies of the same photo.


So frustrating.

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