OK thanks for the advice, I will 'try the new commands' for the mac.
Malwarebytes (free version) well 'download' ?
Well - among others not recreational programs, Roxio, Adobe, 'Office [?] Outlook [???] Apple OS - installs, Windows 10 on the PC -this was the beginning of the infection it came down in the 'FREE of Malware' protection. AS IS ALL download-installs
I use TRENDmicro because it took them 2 months to break into my PC, after long time Norton [their bith], MacAfee [ took 3 weeks AND phishing site, then TREND and phishing site :{ also a few more, lucky I guess.
They live on the HD once it is in their head -F Knows.
[I am a disability pensioner of some time -motorcycle accident - no money as SINGLE VEHICLE incident].
P.S. I know their language and or nationality but official or 'free enterprise' ?
I have an 80 digit '[unknown] Account' number-
MINE is = first block 20 digit alpha-numeric, last 3 blocks numeric of which the last block varies in the last 6 digits,
that is every document IS numbered, I only have 1,000,000 at most on any computer.
Of course use USB-HD[s] for back up of MY files only.
I can regain ownership of files or drives after an hour or so of digging around in 'Sharing' Privileges .
I think they are mine but ... I still cannot change key system files - beware of the 'Sad Monkey' screen saver picture if it pops up on your start up screen.
You see they have a hidden partition on the Hard drive AND USB-HD[s] !
Like dog poo once you tread in it - it sticks.
I could say more but I just wanted to see if I was not going crazy, or are we?
cheers
Mal