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UNACCEPTABLE: Pages docs with page breaks can't be searched past the 1st page break

Hello,


I switched to Pages from Word last year, reconstituting several thousand docs from Word into Pages. One reason was the infamous problem for many that Spotlight couldn't search .docx files.


After having done that, there was info I needed and knew was out there but wasn't showing up in searches.


On my own I discovered PAGE BREAKS were the culprit, making them unsearchable after the page break.


I contacted Apple Support and while the person I spoke to did their utmost, the people they spoke to said this problem was not a problem just the way things were.


That is completely, inalterably UNACCEPTABLE!


That you can't search a document for text is laugable and the idea that's the way it is is ridiculous and signals incompetence.


How could any professional organization rely on an app that can't search their documents? That page breaks after titles, sections and chapters make that text unsearchable is impossible to fathom.


Do something, Apple!

MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 11.4

Posted on Jul 22, 2021 7:10 AM

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Posted on Jul 22, 2021 7:16 AM

royksjr wrote:

Do something, Apple!

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I have no problem searching entire documents even if they have page breaks.

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Jul 22, 2021 8:10 AM in response to royksjr

I just saved a Word .docx of several pages from LibreOffice v7.1.4 to my Desktop. A Spotlight search for a specific word obtained an immediate match for that sole Word document. So the Internet altruism that Spotlight cannot search Word .docx documents, and especially newly created ones may be more folklore than fact. Certainly not worth converting Word documents that can be opened by most word processing applications to Pages documents that can only be opened by Pages.


As for the failure to search in Pages documents with one or more page breaks, that is not my experience here with any historical version of Pages up to and including v11.1 on macOS 11.5.

Jul 22, 2021 11:16 AM in response to VikingOSX

@IdrisSeabright ~ Thank you. I sent a missive off.


@vikingOSX ~ Your dictionary has problems. It's not folklore since it's happened with me and many others. Do your research before making claims not backed up by facts. Google it. The problem seemed to stem from the MicrosoftOffice.mdimporter.


As to Pages, congratulations, your experience is relevant to 1 person in 8 billion: you. One person I spoke with at Apple said Yes, there is a problem with Pages searching. They discovered that by searching via google.

Jul 22, 2021 11:36 AM in response to royksjr

royksjr wrote:

As to Pages, congratulations, your experience is relevant to 1 person in 8 billion: you. One person I spoke with at Apple said Yes, there is a problem with Pages searching. They discovered that by searching via google.

Note that I also didn't have any problem searching past page breaks. It also doesn't seem to be something that shows up a lot on the forums. The fact that is doesn't happen to everyone certainly leaves open the possibility that the problem is with your particular set up, not Pages itself.

Jul 22, 2021 2:58 PM in response to royksjr

If there is a problem with Microsoft Office's mdimporter, that is a Microsoft issue, and not Apple's responsibility to fix — unless there is a flaw in the Apple framework(s) that Microsoft uses to build their Office mdimporter. One would hope as long as people have been complaining about it that Microsoft would have fixed it by version 16.52.


I cannot test Microsoft Office here as I no longer have a practical need for it, and I have no intention of expending money on something I would not use other than satisfying posts in this community. As far as Word documents from other application sources, I stand by my ability to search and find content in those documents using the current Spotlight search facilities.


There are many limitations in the Pages search tool that aggravate those accustomed to MS Word. No argument there.


Neither IdrisSeabright nor I are new to the rodeo, or Pages, and if we both state that we have no issue searching past page breaks, that is not fiction, even if in your perspective, that is 2 people out of 8 billion. I guess I would be suspicious if an Apple support employee had to resort to Google to determine there was a search issue in Pages, at least one spanning page breaks, which I cannot duplicate here with several versions of Pages, on different operating systems (including macOS 11.5), and different multipage Pages documents.



Jul 22, 2021 3:10 PM in response to VikingOSX

VikingOSX wrote:

I cannot test Microsoft Office here as I no longer have a practical need for it, and I have no intention of expending money on something I would not use other than satisfying posts in this community. As far as Word documents from other application sources, I stand by my ability to search and find content in those documents using the current Spotlight search facilities.

I just tested Spotlight on .docx files. It was fast and appeared accurate.

UNACCEPTABLE: Pages docs with page breaks can't be searched past the 1st page break

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