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The finder listing for the contents of my HDD doesn't add up. Where is the extra data?

Please could someone help me with the following.


My Mac has got very slow — especially booting — so I was looking to restore the system.


However, that declares there is not enough space on the disk drive to download.


When I look, indeed there is not. The drive claims to have 121GB with 114GB used and 3.4GB of free space.


So I did a preliminary listing of my disk drive contents, with the aim of finding huge folders to back up and delete.


However, when I sort by size, I notice an interesting thing: there are 36GB of "used" space entirely unaccounted for.



The only folder which is currently not displaying its size is the system folder called "cores." I don't know what this does, but it is still "Calculating..." its size — seemingly perpetually. Surely, it cannot be taking up 36GB of disk space?


Can anyone tell me where those 36GB have gone — and how to get them back?


As you can see, I am using a very old MacBook Air with very limited disk drive space, and I have pared my file use pretty much down to the bone — so, if I could recover 36 redundant Gigabytes of space, the computer would surely run much more happily.


Thanks for all of your thoughts,



Eric

MacBook Air 13″, macOS 10.13

Posted on Aug 19, 2021 8:02 AM

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Posted on Aug 19, 2021 8:57 AM

My first thought is that the drive, being older, may be having trouble.

So I would want to start by making a clean slate of that startup drive.


If I were in your position, I would...

• backup my data to an external drive

• restart the MacBook in Recovery mode and erase the drive

• reinstall the latest compatible macOS

• restore my data from my external drive


Mac startup key combinations - Apple Support


How to reinstall macOS - Apple Support


But that's just me.

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Aug 19, 2021 8:57 AM in response to Eric M Colvin

My first thought is that the drive, being older, may be having trouble.

So I would want to start by making a clean slate of that startup drive.


If I were in your position, I would...

• backup my data to an external drive

• restart the MacBook in Recovery mode and erase the drive

• reinstall the latest compatible macOS

• restore my data from my external drive


Mac startup key combinations - Apple Support


How to reinstall macOS - Apple Support


But that's just me.

Aug 20, 2021 4:49 AM in response to D.I. Johnson

Thanks very much for the advice, M. Johnson. I felt that might be the problem — so I have taken it.


Before erasing the disk, I thought it was advisable to do a full back-up — so I cloned the smallish drive using SuperDuper.


This has led to further questions regarding drives and drive structures.


The (external - Seagate) partition I cloned to was formatted as Mac OS - Extended (journaled).


I now see that the original internal drive is APFS. (Presumably, the previous owner reformatted it as such before selling it on - since the machine is pre-2016.)


So:


1) Should I format the drive again as APFS? (ie., no major advantage to "case sensitive," etc.?)

— I note that, on "Erase Disk" there is, in fact, no HFS+ or OS Extended option even available

(slightly saddening for, at one point, I was thinking of reverting this tiny old museum piece to an earlier operating system, such as Snow Leopard: partly for sentimental reasons (I loved the old iTunes and might use it almost exclusively as a juke box cum video streamer); partly because my guess is that the older OSes hog considerably less drive space, so might run faster and more efficiently?

— do you know of any way I might be able to erase and reformat as HFS+ / OS extended should I wish to some day?)


2) When I repartitioned my Seagate to back up the HDD, should I also have formatted that as APFS?

— ie., is APFS better than Mac OS - extended (journaled) — or is it really more of an SSD thing?


3) Could that difference in file system explain why, now, I can't even boot from the external clone?

— I use System Preferences - Start Up Drive: it whirs on a black screen for an unbearable time; when I return, I see it has has eventually just booted from my internal HDD (the one I am about to erase).


Thanks again for your insights,




Eric


Aug 20, 2021 5:18 AM in response to Eric M Colvin

(Ha! I love it that Apple has interpreted my use of the Latin tag, meaning "with," as an unrepeatable expletive and replaced it with three asterisks! It won't even allow me to edit my question. Does Apple fear people may use this forum to hunt for inappropriate videos?)


(Also BTW, I hesitated to presume you were either Mr Johnson, Mrs Johnson, or Ms Johnson - which is why I used the single M. as a polite title. I regret that I can't, now change that to just D.I. Johnson.)

Aug 20, 2021 7:43 AM in response to Eric M Colvin

Can you tell us the model year of this MacBook Air, please?

And what type of internal startup drive is that... 120GB HDD?


As to your questions above:


1- Well, you've answered your own question here. I agree. Just reformat the drive HFS+ with Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and GUID partition map scheme.


2- The format of the backup drive isn't of much concern as long as the utility you use or the method of backup is compatible. Time Machine requires HFS+ partitioning at this time, I believe, and CCC really doesn't care. And yes, APFS was developed mostly to benefit SSD file management.


3- Not sure why you can't seem to get the MBA to boot from that external clone. I suppose it could have something to do with the file system.


Regardless of the format used, at this point, with your internal drive newly reformatted, check the drive space that is available to you. It should be the majority of the 120GB capacity of the drive. If it is not, then there is definitely something elso going on that will need to be addressed.


If it looks okay, go ahead and reinstall the macOS of your choice from a Recovery mode restart. When that is done, upgrade (or not) the OS to the version you wish to run. And as for your user data, I don't think there's much reason to use CCC to clone it back. You don't have even 40GB of stuff in the Users accounts folder to return, so you could easily just drag and drop your files into place.

The finder listing for the contents of my HDD doesn't add up. Where is the extra data?

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