Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter

My setup:

VHS VCR with composite video/audio out to Hi8 camcorder AV input, then EtoE Firewire (4 pin) out from camcorder via Tripp Lite FireWire 800 IEEE 1394b Hi-speed Cable (9pin/4pin) to Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter into MacBook Air (Mid 2013). The VHS content plays fine on the camcorder and sometimes OK on Final Cut Pro import. However, quite often the video and audio will begin to drop out while importing into Final Cut Pro import on the MacBook Air. I’ve tried all matter of unhooking, rebooking, restarting everything, but nothing helps.

Any ideas what to try? It must have something to do with the link from the camcorder to the MacBook. If I record the VHS material to a tape in the camcorder and then import from that tape in the camcorder to the laptop via the same Tripp Lite FireWire 800 IEEE 1394b Hi-speed Cable (9pin/4pin) and Apple Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter, all is fine.


This is very confusing.

MacBook Air 13″, macOS 11.5

Posted on Sep 12, 2021 1:12 PM

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Posted on Sep 12, 2021 6:11 PM

My thoughts are that the VHS is a little unstable whereas the Digital-8 copy corrects this.


At least you can capture from the D-8 tape.


Placing a TBC (timebase corrector) between the VHS deck and D-8 camera analogue inputs may help in a direct pass through approach.


Al

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Sep 12, 2021 6:36 PM in response to Alchroma

I have run into this problem many times when dealing with old VHS tape and the solution is almost always to add a time base corrector. You would run the composite video out from the VHS into the TBC then out to the the hi8 camera or a digital converter - which then goes via FireWire blah, blah, blah into your computer. This usually works well.  If you have access to a TBC, give this a shot. 

Sep 13, 2021 3:24 AM in response to Alchroma

AFAIR my old JVC SVHS has TBC.


Anyway, when I digitized old VHS, I 1st recorded to D8 tape (to have a digital tape to archive -- but those tapes have been untouched for 20 years) with unnEUtered Sony TRV320E, then fed that to iMovie 1-6 and then exported to .dv archives (those archives I have used) in max 9 min 27 sec chunks (i.e. <2G that was the upper file size in older iMovie). I did also capture a few short tapes with analog-to-DV passthrough straight to iMovie.


Compared to the regular JVC VHS, the SVHS quality was very much the same and AFAIR the mono audio had a little more noise.


A few bad D8 tapes did have dropouts and iMovie had to be forced to ignore timecode breaks to try to salvage some of the footage.


I still have the DV gear (1998 PowerMac 8600/200 with a DV card with System 9 and 2004 PowerBook G4 with OS X 10.5.8 and prefer to use that for nowadays very occasional VHS or DV work although Mac mini 2018 with Mojave also seems to work with iMovie HD 6 and some FW-Thunderbolt adapters.

Sep 13, 2021 7:51 AM in response to Matti Haveri

The Sony DCR-TRV460 has a TBC that the manual says is used to stabilize jitter when playing back tapes recorded on other devices in the Hi8/ standard 8 system. I don't know if that TBC comes into play when using the pass-through setup I'm trying to use.


I really do appreciate all the help you folks have offered. I guess I'll just have to settle to recording to HI8 in the camcorder and then importing from the Hi8 tape to FCP via the FireWire/Thunderbolt interface.


Thanks to all!

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