AirPort Extreme Use with Another Router
If I use an ethernet cable to connect an AirPort Extreme to another type of router with WiFi 6 will it increase my coverage or the strength of my coverage or am I just wasting my time?
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If I use an ethernet cable to connect an AirPort Extreme to another type of router with WiFi 6 will it increase my coverage or the strength of my coverage or am I just wasting my time?
Connect an Ethernet cable from one of the Ethernet ports on the Spectrum modem/router (there are usually 4 of them, choose any one that you want) to the "O" Ethernet port on the back of the AirPort Extreme.
Power up the AirPort Extreme and let it run for a minute or two
Hold in the reset button on the back of the AirPort Extreme for 7-8 seconds and release
Allow a full minute for the AirPort Extreme to restart to a slow, blinking amber light status
On your Mac.......
Click on the WiFi menu at the top of the screen and look for a listing of New AirPort Base Station
Click directly on AirPort Extreme
When you click on AirPort Extreme, that will start up the AirPort Utility setup "wizard". The wizard will take a few seconds to analyze the network and then display a screen that looks similar to the example below except that you will see your version of the AirPort Extreme pictured.
Network Name.......Type in the exact same name as the Spectrum WiFi Network
Base Station Name......Type in a name that you want to call the AirPort Extreme
Password......Type in the exact same wireless network name that the Spectrum router is using
Verify......Type in the same password again to confirm
Click Next
The setup wizard will automatically configure the AirPort Extreme with the correct settings.
When you see a message of Setup Complete, click Done.....and you are done.
Give things a try.
Connect an Ethernet cable from one of the Ethernet ports on the Spectrum modem/router (there are usually 4 of them, choose any one that you want) to the "O" Ethernet port on the back of the AirPort Extreme.
Power up the AirPort Extreme and let it run for a minute or two
Hold in the reset button on the back of the AirPort Extreme for 7-8 seconds and release
Allow a full minute for the AirPort Extreme to restart to a slow, blinking amber light status
On your Mac.......
Click on the WiFi menu at the top of the screen and look for a listing of New AirPort Base Station
Click directly on AirPort Extreme
When you click on AirPort Extreme, that will start up the AirPort Utility setup "wizard". The wizard will take a few seconds to analyze the network and then display a screen that looks similar to the example below except that you will see your version of the AirPort Extreme pictured.
Network Name.......Type in the exact same name as the Spectrum WiFi Network
Base Station Name......Type in a name that you want to call the AirPort Extreme
Password......Type in the exact same wireless network name that the Spectrum router is using
Verify......Type in the same password again to confirm
Click Next
The setup wizard will automatically configure the AirPort Extreme with the correct settings.
When you see a message of Setup Complete, click Done.....and you are done.
Give things a try.
It's actually a lot simpler than you might think and it will take maybe 4 or 5 minutes for you to set up the AirPort Extreme to find out for yourself whether or not it will add anything to your network in terms of significant extended performance.
Post back if you are interested in the simple step by step process.
Note......for example, if your iPhone is located near your "main" router and you walk it to the area near the AirPort Extreme, it is unlikely that the iPhone will automatically "switch" to the AirPort Extreme signal. It might and it might not. There are ways for you to encourage the iPhone to switch though.
Your Mac will have a better chance of automatically "switching" from one access point to another as it moves from an area near one access point to another area near another access point.
You'll have to test things out for yourself to find how well......or if.....the AirPort Extreme will help.
if you open AirPort Utility and click on the picture of the AirPort Extreme, a smaller window will appear with a list of Wireless Clients. This is a list of the WiFi devices that are connected to the AirPort Extreme's WiFi signal at that time.
So, if a device does not appear in the list of Wireless Clients for the AirPort Extreme, then you know that the WiFi device is connected to the WiFi 6 router.
Change the setting for Router Mode on the AirPort Extreme from DHCP and NAT to Bridge Mode, which Apple calls "Off (Bridge Mode)".
Open AirPort Utility
Select the AirPort Extreme
Click Edit in the smaller window that appears
Click the Network tab at the top of the next window
Change the setting for Router from DHCP and NAT to Off (Bridge Mode)
Click Update to save the new settings
When you see a green light on the AirPort Extreme, power off the AirPort Extreme
Power off your WiFi 6 router
Wait a minute
Power up the WiFi 6 router and let it run a minute
Power up the AirPort Extreme
There will now be a better chance of devices automatically "switching" from one router to another as they move about the house.
Another way to say the same thing.......both the WiFi 6 router and the AirPort Extreme are now on the same network. With Double NAT, they are not.
If all of the Wi-Fi devices are configured as access points, all have coordinated Wi-Fi channel usage, and all have wired backhaul connections to your router/firewall/gateway/NAT box, yes. Otherwise, no.
You are so far out of my league I don't think we're even playing the same game.
Unless that means I can just run an ethernet cable between the two, it sounds like I've just got a large heavy white paperweight.
Thanks, though, for replying.
George
The really simple answer to your question is YES.
ghe wrote:
If I use an ethernet cable to connect an AirPort Extreme to another type of router with WiFi 6 will it increase my coverage or the strength of my coverage or am I just wasting my time?
The setup is rather tricky though if the wifi6 router does not have AP mode. (i.e. work as Access Point rather than router)
In fact if you are separating the two wifi devices by several rooms.. so one is working in area of the house where there is virtually no signal from Airport then the new wifi6 router will work great.
Otherwise if your Airport is simply growing old, replacement with the new wifi6 router is probably better.. or wired together turn off wifi in the Airport and just use the wifi6 router.
If you tell us the actual models we can give you a clue if it is going to work easily and how to configure it in more detail.
Nice work.
So, if you run a check and note that the iPhone is connected to the AirPort Extreme and you move the iPhone close to the other router, does the iPhone disappear as a wireless client for the AirPort Extreme.......meaning that it automatically connected to your other router?
You could run the same kind of check in reverse as well. Say the iPhone does not appear as a wireless client for the AirPort Extreme. That would mean that it is connected to your other router. If you move the iPhone close to the AirPort Extreme, does it now appear as a wireless client of the AirPort Extreme? If it does, this indicates that the iPhone did switch over to the AirPort Extreme automatically.
Here's a shorter version: an AirPort Extreme (and any other AirPort router) won't seamlessly connect or "mesh" with other Wi-Fi devices.
You can configure a Wi-Fi network using a configuration with multiple access points including using AirPort routers configured as access points, but that'll require understanding a little more about Wi-Fi networking and the devices involved, and about setting up a DHCP server somewhere on your network.
How can I resist the words "simpler" and "4 or 5 minutes"? I'm game. Here's the info on the routers I have. The AirPort Extreme I have doesn't have any info on the bottom. I bought it in 2015 and the serial number is C86MV4WNFJ1R. The router is from Spectrum. It's a Sagemcom Model SAX1V1S WiFi 6. Let me know if you need any other info.
Thanks!
George
That's interesting. I also noticed the "Double NAT" which says to "Change your AirPort base station from using DHCP and NAT to bridge mode."
Does that mean anything? Anything I should do?
BYW, so far I think my internet wireless connections are operating faster.
George
Thanks. But at this point I don't think I'll proceed. Sounds too tricky for what probably isn't going to make much difference. But I do appreciate your help.
George
Bob -
Worked like a charm! Great, clear instructions. Now, I'll see if I can tell whether it's doing anything over the next week or so.
Thanks again.
George
Again, great instructions. Worked like a charm. Thanks again.
George
AirPort Extreme Use with Another Router