iPhone 13 pro lens flare

It would be absolutely reprehensible for Apple or for that matter ANY maker of camera systems and software to remove data from photos. No camera system on the planet I'm aware of, artificially removes data from photos. There are software tools one can use after a photo has been taken to edit photos, such as Lightroom's Healing Brush. But that is and should only be used by whoever took the photo.

Samsung, nor Google, nor Apple, nor Canon, nor Nikon nor Fujitsu, nor ANYONE else removes data from photos.

I have heard people suggest they saw artifacts removed in "Live Photos" on iPhone. That is also not true. People seem unaware a Live Photo is actually a timed video recording. It's almost impossible for someone to hold the camera completely still during the capture of a Live Photo, unless the camera is on a Tripod and the shutter was released remotely, meaning the camera didn't move, even a fraction of a millimeter from start to finish. But in a Live Photo, since virtually no one does that, they are moving the camera during the capture and flares can and are often moved during the capture. But iPhone is NOT removing any artifacts in a static photo, nor a Live Photo.

You are however, absolutely right about "post processing." But that is after the photo is taken and as I suggest above is entirely up to the person who took the photo to process it further after a photo is taken.

The camera app in iOS 15 is clever enough in some cases to understand what is a natural light source and what is an unwanted flare. This of course by looking at the flare itself and how it looks, so you can say the app needs to do some guessing. All I know is what I saw last night when I took some photos outside, some flares were clearly there as the photo was taken, and I know that I couldnt angle my way out of it to remove them, and I held the phone as still as I could plus took some with tripod also using remote blutooth control. A few times the flares were on the screen in the live view and then gone when I checked the photo after it was taken. If this was because the phone moved a little bit during the shot like you guys say is the reason, then I should have been able to angle my way out of it myself to make them go away before I pressed the shutter button but I could not. So if I couldnt remove them myself by moving the camera a little bit, then there is absolutely no way this could be the reason for the flares to be gone like I saw. This is simple logic.

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This we can agree on. But instead of any camera system arbitrarily deciding what data to capture and what to ignore, Apple could add a new editing tool, which operates like a healing brush, which you could then identify artifacts in photos you want removed. This would give you full control, but not let a system, Apple's or anyone else's license to alter a photo at its inception.

Yes that would also be an cool idea, though I would prefer to have an auto function for this, of course with a setting where you can turn it off and then like you said add a tool that lets your remove them manually. If you ever read here apple make it happen, I bet you can do it :)

Can I ask you a question? Or anyone else here who can test something for me. If you go to settings and scroll down to the camera app, then in the camera settings you have something now that you can enable to preserve any changes you make to nightmode, exposure, and some other things. When those are enabled it will remember the last settings and changes you made in the camera for next time you open the camera app. That also means if you don't enable any of them the app will reset any changes you made and set them back to default next time you open the camera, so you dont have to do it yourself manually.

My problem is that the camera app doesn't reset the changes like it should, every time I open the camera it will show the last settings I made. This is a bit annoying since it shouldnt do that. I have an iphone 12 pro max with latest iOS, I checked on my moms phone, she has a 12 pro, and her's have the same problem. If any of you can test and see if yours are behaving the same way.

"With iOS12, the Camera app will automatically reset to the default settings every time you exit the app." thats how it used to be for me also but not anymore, no more auto resetting :(

I might call support and ask them if they know anything, this have to be a bug or something.

Sorry, I didn't see this last night. It was my company holiday dinner last night, and I'm tied up with family from out of town today. I'll try to mess with this tonight when everyone leaves and report back.

Maybe Dogcow has some time today to check?

Well, idk, always been a MAJOR issue on my 11 pro max. totally sx.

plus, i also use it mounted live streaming on a bicycle, if i use a different video camera handycam type, NO FLARES.

it’s terrible. for the first time since 1982 i’m considering, right now —after this beautiful evenings atrocious videos — a different smartphone vendor.

OR AND UNLESS: this is genuinely a defect, which most of what i’ve read says it is. I really wish i wouldn’t have let it go, not next time. (I always buy large storage unlocked, fully paid day 1 + AC.)

not in a video. and not in a live stream video.

i’m going to test a bunch of models before next one, soon.

i will return each if they do it. i can video in the evenings and get so much flare it creates things that aren’t there so grossly the video is really no good to enjoy.

Btw. I made a little clip for you guys to show you that the iphone is indeed now able to remove some flares automatically while the photo is being processed and saved. I used the iphone screen recorder to record the screen. Take a look at this short clip, look on the left side of the screen, you see a green lens flare, as you can see this lens flare is there all the way through as the photo is being taken and processed, then look at the end as I click to view the photo, you will see that the green flare is now gone. But as I mentioned before this doesnt happend all the time, but on some shots and with flares that has a size like this, it sometimes removes it. I know some of you kept saying it is impossible for the iphone to bend the laws of physics, but as you can see it is not impossible at all in some situations :)

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No it wasnt youtube, the link was to mega where I uploaded the video. I seen people post video links before so not sure what was wrong here but it's okay if they dont allow people to share informal relevant videos about the topic in question thats fine. Just wanted to share what I experienced :)

I think that is not the case B.6

According with B.5 it seems we can submit link to a test about Apple product

But there is always option E.2😊;

“Apple reserves the right to delete any Submission, or take action against any account, at any time, for any reason”

Hello ~ No…I was referring to this:

**Discussion of Apple policies or procedures or Apple’s moderation of the Site.**

I didn’t see your video link so I can’t comment on that. One thing I would say is if the iPhone you have is not satisfactory sell it and get something else. I myself would never have any device that caused me so much stress and turmoil.

~Katana-San~

Okay I see, I thought it was you who removed the link to my video. Im happy with my iphone so all good there. Just wanted to post a short clip I made showing how my iphone was able to remove an unwanted lense flare automatically during the post processing/saving of the photo. The clip was hosted on mega.nz - But maybe it's not allowed to post links from that site. Anyways merry christmas everyone.

Hello ~ No…I like you am just a fellow forum user. We cannot remove anything. I think that you are quite bright as a matter of fact and could be a great help by answering questions as we do here in our beloved community. I would encourage you to browse the forum and find questions that you can help others with. Study the terms of use and branch out as that is how I got started here but I warn you it can become addictive :) Be well and Happy Holidays.

~Katana-San~

Abryan619 wrote:

These reflection .. are these the new normal ?

No, they are the old normal. Almost as old as photography. Lens flare has been around since the first camera with a compound lens. Early pinhole cameras didn’t have lens flare (no lens).