New MacBookPro, but want old school functionality of managing files manually on hard drive

Hi all:


Thanks so much for reading my query. I just got a new MacBook Pro running Big Sur 11.5.2. I didn't want to migrate all my files from my old MacBook Pro (10.9.5).


At first I had to put the hard drive icon on the desktop because it wasn't even there!! Then when I attempted to drag something from the desktop to the icon, it wouldn't move it to the hard drive. I then thought that perhaps I could get it there and create a new folder while I was saving or moving the file. No, the New Folder button was shaded and it wouldn't let me save it or move it to the hard drive.


I am quite old school, and am very frustrated that I seemingly have no control over where my files are being stored. I can even do this in a Windows machine, why would Apple abandon this funtionality.


At this point the only thing I can think of is to create a folder on my desktop called Hard Drive and then keep everything there!!


Please advise, I did search here but must not have used the right keywords because I didn't find any other posts about this.


Thanks.

Posted on Oct 16, 2021 4:44 PM

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Posted on Oct 16, 2021 5:49 PM

just to explain the new restricted access to some things on your hard drive: the OS and all system files are now in read only volume for security - no one has access to it (which is good). You can still file things away - just don’t drag them to the hard drive. Instead, just put an alias of your User folder (or even the Documents folder which is inside your User folder) in the dock. That way you still have easy access to the folder and you can avoid the hard drive itself. And you can create folders inside your Documents folder so you can arrange it any way you want.

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Oct 16, 2021 5:49 PM in response to Carole315

just to explain the new restricted access to some things on your hard drive: the OS and all system files are now in read only volume for security - no one has access to it (which is good). You can still file things away - just don’t drag them to the hard drive. Instead, just put an alias of your User folder (or even the Documents folder which is inside your User folder) in the dock. That way you still have easy access to the folder and you can avoid the hard drive itself. And you can create folders inside your Documents folder so you can arrange it any way you want.

Oct 16, 2021 8:31 PM in response to Carole315

I’ve managed my files using the Documents folder for many years. And, I have had an alias to the folder parked in my dock for easy one click access. Apple did not really change that - you were always supposed to use that. The reason: it is just too easy to inadvertently get into a systems folder while using the actual hard drive icon. So, having an alias of the Documents folder in the dock makes it a one click access and the content winds up on your hard drive.

Oct 17, 2021 10:03 AM in response to Yer_Man

LOL, I get that now, thanks. I think I will just create a folder that I can use this way. It wasn't about the icon, it was about having everything in one place so I could manage it. I might make an alias of the Documents folder, since that is what everyone here said I should use. Don't know if I will put it in the Dock, someone mentioned that notion. I will just play around a bit before I start moving my files over. That is a whole 'nother story!! Thanks.

Oct 16, 2021 4:59 PM in response to Carole315

EDIT: I misunderstood the question. Yer_Man has the best advice here - all of your data should be stored inside your user account folder, ideally inside one of the default folders included in your user account (such as Desktop or Documents). You can create additional folders in your user account folder, or inside the default folders included in your user account.

Oct 16, 2021 5:10 PM in response to Carole315

Carole315 wrote:

I seemingly have no control over where my files are being stored. I can even do this in a Windows machine, why would Apple abandon this funtionality.

You have control over where your files are stored. You just shouldn't mix any of your files in with Apple's files. On Windows, you probably shouldn't store your personal files in "C:\Windows\System32". That would cause lots of problems. It's no different on the Mac.


There are ways to create your own folders directly at the hard drive level, but it is a little tricky. It is much easier to just keep your files in "Documents". That's what it's for.

Oct 16, 2021 7:26 PM in response to babowa

Thanks, you explained it well for me. I guess I was just using the Hard Drive icon on the desktop for storing and managing all my files all the previous OS ago. Sounds like I will have to change my approach with the new more secure OS. I will have to play with it for a while to get used to a new model of managing my files. I guess I am someone who just hates to have someone else tell me how I should save my files, and now Apple is apparently joining in on that.

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