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Will a skin for MBP M1 Max cause any problems?

I have put skins on MBPs before without ill effects that I could measure. I like the protection from scratches and dings.


I'm thinking of putting this "wooden" skin on my new MBP M1 Max.


https://us.cover-up.com/products/macbook-pro-16-m1-woodback-bottom-skin-blackened-ash


Is there any reason not to put this type skin on an MBP M1 Max?

Posted on Nov 16, 2021 7:40 AM

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Posted on Nov 16, 2021 8:55 AM

I think the issue of insulating effects is a great question for the maker of that kind of shell. If they cannot provide an answer including any actual temp change results, I would be nervous, but I doubt it is a big concern today.


In pre-Unibody MBPs (like pre-2009) the case bottom was part of the heat dissipation system, acting as helper for the heat sink. In Unibody Macs the logic board "hangs" from the chassis (deck) and does not touch the bottom plate. Contact cooling is not the concern it used to be with the old "silver-key" models:



This is what Apple says about keeping their notebook computers cool:


Keep your Mac notebook within acceptable operating temperatures - Apple Support


By the way, that is some gorgeous wood in those skins!

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Nov 16, 2021 8:55 AM in response to HokaHey

I think the issue of insulating effects is a great question for the maker of that kind of shell. If they cannot provide an answer including any actual temp change results, I would be nervous, but I doubt it is a big concern today.


In pre-Unibody MBPs (like pre-2009) the case bottom was part of the heat dissipation system, acting as helper for the heat sink. In Unibody Macs the logic board "hangs" from the chassis (deck) and does not touch the bottom plate. Contact cooling is not the concern it used to be with the old "silver-key" models:



This is what Apple says about keeping their notebook computers cool:


Keep your Mac notebook within acceptable operating temperatures - Apple Support


By the way, that is some gorgeous wood in those skins!

Nov 16, 2021 7:59 AM in response to HokaHey

HokaHey wrote:

I have put skins on MBPs before without ill effects that I could measure. I like the protection from scratches and dings.

I'm thinking of putting this "wooden" skin on my new MBP M1 Max.

https://us.cover-up.com/products/macbook-pro-16-m1-woodback-bottom-skin-blackened-ash

Is there any reason not to put this type skin on an MBP M1 Max?


Well it is your computer and your choice....


I see no warning here about skins—Using a camera cover, palm rest, or keyboard cover on a Mac ...


Nov 16, 2021 8:18 AM in response to HokaHey

I have serious concerns with ventilation and how skins/case affect cooling. Too many skin/cover makers play fast and loose with Apples's placement of cooling vents. Because air intake location and type vary with sub-models, some cases and skins sold as covering multiple models may block a critical air path in some Macs. That can be lethal to a computer.


Apple's images of the 2021 14- and 16-inch MBPs clear show intake vents on the lower section of the side at the junction between the bottom plate and the chassis:



The other critical area in all MacBook Pros is the hinge. It is the exhaust point for hot air on all MBPs and the air intake on some 13-inch models.


NOTHING must occlude or restrain any of these vents. If you opt to use a cover, find out if the seller and/or manufacturer will guarantee replacement of your computer should the skign causes damage. If not, walk away.

Nov 16, 2021 8:23 AM in response to leroydouglas

Thanks.


After reviewing the article that you referenced, it is about interior covers and clearances; camera cover, palm rest, or keyboard cover. It does not address the issue of external covers. So, I don't think that the failure to provide a warning about exterior covers in this context can be seen as an endorsement of such.


Nov 16, 2021 8:27 AM in response to HokaHey

HokaHey wrote:

Thanks.

After reviewing the article that you referenced, it is about interior covers and clearances; camera cover, palm rest, or keyboard cover. It does not address the issue of external covers. So, I don't think that the failure to provide a warning about exterior covers in this context can be seen as an endorsement of such.


The M1 is not prone to heat issues like are known with the Intel Macs.



Nov 16, 2021 8:30 AM in response to Allan Jones

Thanks Allan Jones. Very helpful. For the sake of the discussion, let's assume that the exhaust ports are not blocked by the cover. Does adding a cover reduce the capacity of the aluminum shell from venting heat? I think that it must act as an insulator to some degree. So, the question becomes whether the amount of heat dissipated through the shell is significant. Do you have any thoughts about that?


Nov 16, 2021 9:04 AM in response to Allan Jones

Thanks again. Great historical explanation of the insulating question. Makes sense.


Since the overheating article you cite does not mention skins, at least Apple hasn't warned against them and since they sell skins on their store, I will take those as implicit authorizations to use skins in the MBPs.


And, yes. Those skins are great. I've had one on my MBP 2016 since I took it out of the box and it has remained beautiful. However, the MBP 2016 tends to run hot when I'm using Photoshop, DXO and working from an external TB3 drive. So, I didn't want to take any risks on the new MBP M1 Max as I'm paying a lot more for it than I have ever paid for a laptop before and am hoping it will last a long time.

Nov 16, 2021 9:22 AM in response to HokaHey

Since the overheating article you cite does not mention skins, at least Apple hasn't warned against them and since they sell skins on their store,


Not sure if that will hold up in a warranty squabble as Apple has always placed fine print about their not warranting third-party things they sell. I checked that article because I could not remember if it discussed skin and cases. It only says not to use keyboard covers.


I see the appeal of a computer that looks like the dash panel from a Bentley or Rolls. As long as the skin's adhesive or whatever they use to hold it doesn't damage the anodized aluminum in the case , I guess its OK.






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