the icons are cancelled out:
Also changed, and highly irritating, is most of the images saved on my desktop no longer show a preview. It seems random. I tried the fix someone had posted for another IOS program, but it did not work for me. Thank you.
P.S. If I am unable to access Adobe CS5 products anymore can someone recommend another [compatible] system to install?
Hi Picaso21,
I'm in the same boat with my 2015 macbook pro 13". I too don't want to fork over adobe's exorbitant subscription fees. I don't use lightroom or photoshop enough make the $$ warrant paying their usage royalties. That said, there's a couple other options that will cost a little upfront but will allow you keep using your old Adobe software running. Option 1: Backup your current system with time machine, install VMware or Parallels and install Mojave in the virtual machine. Then restore your backed up system from time machine on the virtual machine. CS 6 and other 64/32 bit software should run fine there and you can move between monterey and mojave easily. Just make sure you have a fairly new Mac with ample disk space 500Gb - 2Tb and memory of 16 - 32Gb. Option 2 below will require that you clone your Mac hard drive to and external SSD like the Sandisk Extreme 1Tb or any SSD with fast read write (1gb transfer rate) using USB 3 or USB C.
The last option requires you to log out from your account to then boot from the external drive, but will probably help you stay focused when you're working in Lightroom or Adobe. If you're on a fairly quick Mac, moving from the SSD to the internal OS shouldn't take more than a minute. Here's a nice video tutorial to set up the latter option. A quick search online will turn up using vmware or parallels for option #1. Good luck!
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: Make sure you BACK UP your Mac with time machine before doing any of this! :)
That's about it. Hope this helps and good luck!
Hi Picaso21,
I'm in the same boat with my 2015 macbook pro 13". I too don't want to fork over adobe's exorbitant subscription fees. I don't use lightroom or photoshop enough make the $$ warrant paying their usage royalties. That said, there's a couple other options that will cost a little upfront but will allow you keep using your old Adobe software running. Option 1: Backup your current system with time machine, install VMware or Parallels and install Mojave in the virtual machine. Then restore your backed up system from time machine on the virtual machine. CS 6 and other 64/32 bit software should run fine there and you can move between monterey and mojave easily. Just make sure you have a fairly new Mac with ample disk space 500Gb - 2Tb and memory of 16 - 32Gb. Option 2 below will require that you clone your Mac hard drive to and external SSD like the Sandisk Extreme 1Tb or any SSD with fast read write (1gb transfer rate) using USB 3 or USB C.
The last option requires you to log out from your account to then boot from the external drive, but will probably help you stay focused when you're working in Lightroom or Adobe. If you're on a fairly quick Mac, moving from the SSD to the internal OS shouldn't take more than a minute. Here's a nice video tutorial to set up the latter option. A quick search online will turn up using vmware or parallels for option #1. Good luck!
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: Make sure you BACK UP your Mac with time machine before doing any of this! :)
That's about it. Hope this helps and good luck!
Adobe CS5 was released 11 years ago and Adobe stopped supporting it in 2017. Neither CS5 nor CS6 will work on Monterey. If you wish to use the Adobe Suite, you need to upgrade to Adobe Creative Cloud. (adobe.com).
Did you make a Time Machine backup of your hard drive just prior to upgrading to Monterey, right? If so you can revert back to whatever system you had by following this Apple document: Restore your Mac from a backup - Apple Support
Time Machine doesn't install an OS, it merges your personal data and third party apps back into whatever OS you install. So what happened is the Mac first installed the most current OS your Mac can run, then merged your TM data in.
To get El Capitan installed, you need an installer of that OS. There's a link on this page to download El Capitan from Apple's servers, with instructions on how to create a bootable USB installer.
When you get to installing El Capitan, there's a point where it asks if you have data to restore. Say yes and point it to your Time Machine drive.
Creating the bootable USB drive is actually step one. Old Toad provided a link to Apple's page, as did I. Here it is again:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372
Since you want to install Mojave, you first need an 8 GB USB flash drive. It seems you already have the Mojave installer on your drive. Just leave the installer where it currently is in the Applications folder.
You need this line on the linked page for Terminal:
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Big\ Sur.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume
First copy/paste this line into TextEdit. Change the MyVolume at the end to a , so it reads:
sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Big\ Sur.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/a
Plug in your USB drive. Change the name of the drive to just the letter a so it matches the edit you made to the line above.
Now copy/paste the modified line that ends in a into Terminal and press enter. Enter your admin password. You'll then be asked if you really want to erase the volume named a . Type y and then enter. Everything after that is automatic. The USB drive will be erased and Mojave will be installed to it. When it's done, the USB drive's name will change to Install macOS Mojave.
You just have to wait a bit. A percentage progress will tick off. You'll know it's done when Terminal goes back to a new prompt that looks the same as the first one.
Close Terminal.
From here, we assume you have a current Time Machine backup and you've turned that drive off. Then we're back to the previous post. Though edited next to include more detail.
Boot to the USB drive with the older OS you want to install. Restart the Mac and immediately hold down the Option key. A screen will appear with drives you can startup to. Choose the newly made USB installer. This will take longer than starting up from the Mac's main drive. Be patient. Once booted to the USB drive, you'll see a minimal work screen.
Use Disk Utility (from the top menu bar) to erase the internal drive. A quick erase is all that's needed. Quit Disk Utility when it's done and then choose the option to install macOS.
As the OS install nears completion, have the drive with your Time Machine backup on. The OS will ask if you have data to restore. Say yes and choose the TM drive. It will restore your user account(s), any third party software you had installed, and all other personal data.
Downgrading to El Capitan should work using the same steps Here's the install file for El Capitan: http://updates-http.cdn-apple.com/2019/cert/061-41424-20191024-218af9ec-cf50-4516-9011-228c78eda3d2/InstallMacOSX.dmg. Came from here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211683 (scroll down for Sierra, High Sierra, etc).
Once you're able to downgrade to EC and restore your system from your time machine backup, you can try upgrading to High Sierra (or not) through the Software Update in System Preferences. Then test your Adobe software. If all is good, you can then follow the instructions I shared to copy your system to a bootable SSD. From there test booting from the SSD (hold down the option key when powering up) and then try running your Adobe software. If your CS 5 suite works, then you can safely upgrade your main iMac OS to Monterey.
I must admit, my old MacBook Pro 2015 Retina runs a lot faster using Monterey and some of the UI features and integrations with our other Mac products (iPhones, Airpods, iPads, Apple TV, etc) are seamless and snappy. Good luck!
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Not just in our minds, it is antiquated software.
Sorry, I'm not swayed by how much you paid for it. I've paid for every version of the suite since Photoshop version 3, multiple versions of the Design Suite, the CS suites, and then years of the Creative Cloud suite.
If you've made money using it, then CS5 should have well more than paid for itself after 11 years.
Per Lanny's note, CS6 will not run in anything later than Mojave. Nor will CS5, and that's even more iffy. CS6 is mostly 64 bit, but has some 32 bit dependencies. It will not run in Catalina or later.
You have three options:
Picaso21 wrote:
Dear All,
I am aware that this is (in your mind) an antiquated software. ...
Not just in our minds but in Adobe's as well since they dropped all support and obsoleted it 4 years ago!
So, for one, it is the app vendors responsibility to insure compatibility with an OS, which Adobe has done with their Creative Cloud suite. In addition, it is absurd to think that Apple (or Microsoft for that matter) should be concerned that obsolete software doesn't work on an OS.
As stated previously, your options are:
After 11 years, you certainly have got your use out of the original purchase.
Whether you like it or not, technology will continue to move on and new apps will be developed to replace the old and vendors will eventually end support for old apps. That is just the way things are.
As noted by woodmeister50, not snarky at all. Facts. I used these apps for a small, in-home business. It was just part of the cost of doing so. The apps, despite the very expensive upgrades, cost far less than what they earned me by having them.
The wife and I are also close to retiring. I've been replacing everything I normally used with free, or much cheaper alternatives. Look into these:
Only Inkscape and VivaDesigner are free, but at least the others are perpetual license products. No subscriptions, which was our goal. I knocked the Creative Cloud suite down to the Photography version only of Photoshop and Lightroom. It's only $10 per month that way instead of $53. I have no use for Lightroom, but wanted to keep Photoshop CC because it has features I use a lot that don't exist in CS6.
I can still use my CS6 Master Collection I have installed on a Mojave partition if I want to on a 2018 Mac Mini. I mainly use that for the video stuff I occasionally do.
If you want to run CS 5 on your system you need to downgrade to El Capitan ("EC"). Here are the steps using the downgrade tutorial video.
This will get you back to your old system answering your initial request. If you'd like to upgrade your iMac to Monterey and still be able to use CS5, you'll need to follow this tutorial video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G-aVaj6GK0
This will clone your El Capitan system (with CS 5) onto an SSD external drive. After that has been complete (and tested), you can upgrade your system through the System Preferences > Software Updates. Then to run CS 5, simply restart your iMac, hold down the option key (before the Apple dong sounds) and you'll be able to select which system to boot from. Select the El Capitan external drive and your iMac will boot and you can run CS 5.
You'll also be able to access all your files from your internal drive if needed. To keep your El Capitan external drive full of space, you're free to delete apps, files and pretty much anything not CS 5 related or El Capitan core apps, etc. and have plenty of storage.
Outside of what others and I have provided here, you may want to hire a local Mac IT specialist and have them follow the steps provided on this thread. The $100-$200 will be well worth the effort if you don't feel comfortable doing this. :) Best of luck!
I attempted to dial my iMac backwards to Mojave from Monterey, but after 30 minutes I got a message that said it was too old and the download would not proceed. How can it be too old when what came installed on it was El Capitan and it's even older than Mojave??? I'd really like to stop bothering you folks. Does anyone have an answer for me? Thank you. Robin
Dear All,
I am aware that this is (in your mind) an antiquated software. I paid a lot of money for this and I know HOW to use this version. Forcing me to “move to the cloud” is no bueno. I can’t even move this software to another computer as they made that process a nightmare!
Keith, thank you for this. Unfortunately I am no computer guru, and that would entail a lot of self-education to learn how to do that as well as how to utilize it once I did. But thank you again, would be helpful advice if I were smarter. ;) LOL
Not snarky remarks, just plain facts.
FWIW, I am retired and on a fixed income and need to budget between home repair maintenance, taxes, utilities, food, car, and biggie is health insurance and prescriptions (Medicare doesn't pay everything). So my tech budget is pretty limited. Did manage a new M1 MacBook Air last year and will be paying for it for the next couple years. I do have three other Macs ranging from 11 to 8 years old. So I'm not buying something new every year!
OMG! Appleaday8. IF I had the technical ability to accomplish this I would do it, but unfortunately I do not. :(
Yesterday I tried to turn my OS back to El Capitan from my Time Machine backup and all that happened was that it RE-INSTALLED Monteray! It's a mess. It was just like setting up a new computer from scratch with all those passwords that needed to be re-entered. I will never understand the backend of a computer unfortunately.
Upgraded to Monterey and now cannot access Adobe Creative Suites CS5...
