the icons are cancelled out:
Also changed, and highly irritating, is most of the images saved on my desktop no longer show a preview. It seems random. I tried the fix someone had posted for another IOS program, but it did not work for me. Thank you.
P.S. If I am unable to access Adobe CS5 products anymore can someone recommend another [compatible] system to install?
Adobe CS5 was released 11 years ago and Adobe stopped supporting it in 2017. Neither CS5 nor CS6 will work on Monterey. If you wish to use the Adobe Suite, you need to upgrade to Adobe Creative Cloud. (adobe.com).
Adobe CS5 was released 11 years ago and Adobe stopped supporting it in 2017. Neither CS5 nor CS6 will work on Monterey. If you wish to use the Adobe Suite, you need to upgrade to Adobe Creative Cloud. (adobe.com).
Not just in our minds, it is antiquated software.
Sorry, I'm not swayed by how much you paid for it. I've paid for every version of the suite since Photoshop version 3, multiple versions of the Design Suite, the CS suites, and then years of the Creative Cloud suite.
If you've made money using it, then CS5 should have well more than paid for itself after 11 years.
Per Lanny's note, CS6 will not run in anything later than Mojave. Nor will CS5, and that's even more iffy. CS6 is mostly 64 bit, but has some 32 bit dependencies. It will not run in Catalina or later.
You have three options:
Picaso21 wrote:
Dear All,
I am aware that this is (in your mind) an antiquated software. ...
Not just in our minds but in Adobe's as well since they dropped all support and obsoleted it 4 years ago!
So, for one, it is the app vendors responsibility to insure compatibility with an OS, which Adobe has done with their Creative Cloud suite. In addition, it is absurd to think that Apple (or Microsoft for that matter) should be concerned that obsolete software doesn't work on an OS.
As stated previously, your options are:
After 11 years, you certainly have got your use out of the original purchase.
Whether you like it or not, technology will continue to move on and new apps will be developed to replace the old and vendors will eventually end support for old apps. That is just the way things are.
Yeah there’s a few steps. In the end I installed Mojave on the sandisk SSD external drive then restored my old Mojave time machine back up on it. Whenever I need to work with my old Adobe CS 6 apps, I boot my Mac with Monterey on it from the external ssd. Boots quickly and runs fine and I can save my Adobe projects on my MacBook (or the SSD).
The alternative is to use tools like Pixlr: https://pixlr.com/e/ or Affinity https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/. Pixlr is online and a bare bones photo/image editor / creator. Affinity is closer to PS and only $60 one time fee. I tried Pixlr but my initial take was that it had about 80% the utility of PS 6. Affinity has all the features of PS 6 and then some. Not sure how it compares to the latest PS version. Hope this helps!
Hey Picaso21, here's a good step by step video for downgrading your systems' Mac OS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3-xf7-zpAk. Note that it's best to use external hard drives that are ok to erase and reformat for the boot drive as well as what will contain your old Sierra bootable system that has all your old Adobe software. If you have two external SSD drives that would be ideal. SSD drives will run quickly compared to disk drives when booting your system of an external drive when holding down the option key when powering up.
The above instructional video will get you a bootable external drive running Sierra or Mojave that you will use to install Mojave or Sierra back on your computer. Since you have your old Sierra time machine backup, you'll be able to back up from there once you have a fresh install of Sierra. This should put you back to where you started.
From there you just can follow the methods I shared to run your old system with Adobe CS 5 on the same machine you have running Monterey. Hope this helps!
If you want to run CS 5 on your system you need to downgrade to El Capitan ("EC"). Here are the steps using the downgrade tutorial video.
This will get you back to your old system answering your initial request. If you'd like to upgrade your iMac to Monterey and still be able to use CS5, you'll need to follow this tutorial video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G-aVaj6GK0
This will clone your El Capitan system (with CS 5) onto an SSD external drive. After that has been complete (and tested), you can upgrade your system through the System Preferences > Software Updates. Then to run CS 5, simply restart your iMac, hold down the option key (before the Apple dong sounds) and you'll be able to select which system to boot from. Select the El Capitan external drive and your iMac will boot and you can run CS 5.
You'll also be able to access all your files from your internal drive if needed. To keep your El Capitan external drive full of space, you're free to delete apps, files and pretty much anything not CS 5 related or El Capitan core apps, etc. and have plenty of storage.
Outside of what others and I have provided here, you may want to hire a local Mac IT specialist and have them follow the steps provided on this thread. The $100-$200 will be well worth the effort if you don't feel comfortable doing this. :) Best of luck!
As noted by woodmeister50, not snarky at all. Facts. I used these apps for a small, in-home business. It was just part of the cost of doing so. The apps, despite the very expensive upgrades, cost far less than what they earned me by having them.
The wife and I are also close to retiring. I've been replacing everything I normally used with free, or much cheaper alternatives. Look into these:
Only Inkscape and VivaDesigner are free, but at least the others are perpetual license products. No subscriptions, which was our goal. I knocked the Creative Cloud suite down to the Photography version only of Photoshop and Lightroom. It's only $10 per month that way instead of $53. I have no use for Lightroom, but wanted to keep Photoshop CC because it has features I use a lot that don't exist in CS6.
I can still use my CS6 Master Collection I have installed on a Mojave partition if I want to on a 2018 Mac Mini. I mainly use that for the video stuff I occasionally do.
Hi Picaso21,
I'm in the same boat with my 2015 macbook pro 13". I too don't want to fork over adobe's exorbitant subscription fees. I don't use lightroom or photoshop enough make the $$ warrant paying their usage royalties. That said, there's a couple other options that will cost a little upfront but will allow you keep using your old Adobe software running. Option 1: Backup your current system with time machine, install VMware or Parallels and install Mojave in the virtual machine. Then restore your backed up system from time machine on the virtual machine. CS 6 and other 64/32 bit software should run fine there and you can move between monterey and mojave easily. Just make sure you have a fairly new Mac with ample disk space 500Gb - 2Tb and memory of 16 - 32Gb. Option 2 below will require that you clone your Mac hard drive to and external SSD like the Sandisk Extreme 1Tb or any SSD with fast read write (1gb transfer rate) using USB 3 or USB C.
The last option requires you to log out from your account to then boot from the external drive, but will probably help you stay focused when you're working in Lightroom or Adobe. If you're on a fairly quick Mac, moving from the SSD to the internal OS shouldn't take more than a minute. Here's a nice video tutorial to set up the latter option. A quick search online will turn up using vmware or parallels for option #1. Good luck!
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: Make sure you BACK UP your Mac with time machine before doing any of this! :)
That's about it. Hope this helps and good luck!
Time Machine doesn't install an OS, it merges your personal data and third party apps back into whatever OS you install. So what happened is the Mac first installed the most current OS your Mac can run, then merged your TM data in.
To get El Capitan installed, you need an installer of that OS. There's a link on this page to download El Capitan from Apple's servers, with instructions on how to create a bootable USB installer.
When you get to installing El Capitan, there's a point where it asks if you have data to restore. Say yes and point it to your Time Machine drive.
Just by running Time Machine and waiting until it's done. Then turn the TM drive off (I assume it's an external).
Then boot to the USB drive with the older OS you want to install. Once booted to that, use Disk Utility (from the top menu bar) to erase the internal drive. A quick erase is all that's needed. Quit Disk Utility when it's done and then choose the option to install macOS.
As the OS install nears completion, have the drive with your Time Machine backup on. The OS will ask if you have data to restore. Say yes and choose the TM drive. It will restore your user account(s), any third party software you had installed, and all other personal data.
Here's some food for thought: if you're contemplating alternatives for the CS5 suite of apps you might look into Affinity's apps which are available individually and only a one time purchase. I've read good reviews about them from some of the top contributors to these forums. I know the Affinity Photos has a demo version you can try. Not sure about their other apps. If you like them they would be a more reasonable priced alternative to the Adobe Suite of apps.
Those are old, 32 bit apps. Monterey only runs 64 bit apps. You can update to a later
Get update Adobe products
Did you make a Time Machine backup of your hard drive just prior to upgrading to Monterey, right? If so you can revert back to whatever system you had by following this Apple document: Restore your Mac from a backup - Apple Support
As noted by Keith, yes, Mojave is the last version of macOS that will run 32 bit apps.
But, it was kind of a cross-over OS to Catalina. Meaning, Apple made it fairly clear Mojave wasn't guaranteed to run all 32 bit apps. High Sierra was the last OS to run 32 bit apps without compromise (Apple's words). And that OS would be a better choice for CS5 anyway.
The current version of Adobe products instead of the 11 year old version. You would need CS6 or later.
Upgraded to Monterey and now cannot access Adobe Creative Suites CS5...
