Iphone 13 Pro Camera Image Quaility

Hello, I recently upgraded from an iPhone 7 and bought an iPhone 13 pro. So I started using it in various lighting conditions and for the most part I saw a very consistent over processed, over saturated, meaning that the photo looks terribly artificial & seriously over processed. Normal real life shadows are pushed too hard attempting to create a uniform lighting exposure which does not exist in reality. I've used 4 different iPhone IOS camera apps, used RAW, HEIF, JPEG and TIFF's. I used Apple Photos, Photoshop, Lightroom, Affinity Photos and a couple open source photo editors, all of which supported RAW development. The editing results varied somewhat but only the RAW & TiFF files could salvage an image but with considerable effort, however, with uninspiring results.


I'm a professional photographer and no, I did not get the 13pro to replace my DSLR's & mirrorless full frame cameras and lenses but I cannot express how totally disappointed I am in the output of this camera. Even the phone's RAW files seem to have a considerable amount of baked in processing and when exported from Photos into an external editor, the image shows up 3-5 stops overexposed. Never seen a raw file act that way. After reading the rave reviews this camera phone had received I now wonder how that is possible. Is it that the norm today is over processed images?


I've done everything I know as a professional photographer to try every possible option in settings, file types and editors but I found that I actually needed all my 50 years of experience to salvage an image and that I never expected.

If there's anyone here that knows something I don't know please give me a solution to getting a decent image out of that phone.


Thanks

Posted on Jan 3, 2022 10:57 AM

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Posted on Jan 3, 2022 1:02 PM

That’s because the ProRAW format output by the iPhone is not an actual RAW format but rather is RAW with processing:


Apple ProRAW combines the information of a standard RAW format along with iPhone image processing, which gives you more flexibility when editing the exposure, color, and white balance in your photo.

About Apple ProRAW - Apple Support


However, third party camera apps that run on-device can access the sensor directly, allowing them to generate images without processing; Lightroom and Halide are two that are reported to be able to do this.

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Jan 3, 2022 1:02 PM in response to Pete Dubaj

That’s because the ProRAW format output by the iPhone is not an actual RAW format but rather is RAW with processing:


Apple ProRAW combines the information of a standard RAW format along with iPhone image processing, which gives you more flexibility when editing the exposure, color, and white balance in your photo.

About Apple ProRAW - Apple Support


However, third party camera apps that run on-device can access the sensor directly, allowing them to generate images without processing; Lightroom and Halide are two that are reported to be able to do this.

Jan 10, 2022 12:00 PM in response to Pete Dubaj

I could not agree with you more, after all the hoopla surrounding the iPhone 13 Pro camera I am also disappointed with the over-processing of photos. My 13 Pro and my wife's 13 Pro Max take great pictures at night or indoors but is no match for my old iPhone at sunset. Fortunately I did NOT purchase the phone for its camera and the phone will not replace my plethora of Canon gear but I was hoping to just take the 13 Pro on trips when I take the majority of my photos; no dice however.


Below is a rather "interesting" photo, taken with my 13 Pro with the HEIC format right before the sun went down on a Florida pier. The photo is "as the camera took it", unedited. My legs were tan but not like that... and look at my shoes and shoelaces, the portions not hit by direct sunlight are normal, the rest are not. Also look at my shorts; they were solid mid-gray like the shoes and the areas where the sun hit them "changed" color to tan/orange... 👎


And why did I take that picture... I had taken a series of photos of my wife with the sun at her face and was greatly disappointed with the over-processing so I tried my legs to see. Apple wants to see "dramatic" colors for the masses and "dramatic" colors they get... 🤷‍♂️




And don't forget about lens flares - flares occur with all cameras but my 13 Pro is the worst I got:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251953166?answerId=256647369022&page=65

Jan 3, 2022 3:34 PM in response to Pete Dubaj

I know many people who post photos taken on their iPhone 13s as professionals and make a good living, so I guess it is "pro," just not your definition of "pro."


If it's such a big deal, perhaps you should have investigated before making a purchase; the description of ProRAW I referred you to was posted December 14, 2020 and covers the iPhone 12 Pro, which operated the same way.

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