Historically, each time a new OS is released, Apple posts a Knowledge Base article which lists all the fonts installed by the new OS. I’ve found some of the older lists, but nowhere can I find that list for Monterey.
Any ideas? It’s time to pair down the font morass but first of all, ya have to know what type Apple included and which are required and shouldn’t be touched.
I thank you.
MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 12.0
For some reason they have not done it for Monterey, which is annoying. See this for a possible replacement
For some reason they have not done it for Monterey, which is annoying. See this for a possible replacement
Another scenario to list the installed fonts in Monterey is to use Fontbook to print a report of those fonts. In Fontbook, select All Fonts, and click the first font entry, and press ⌘A to select all of them. This will take some effort so expect the spinning rainbow until all are selected. Then, from the File menu, choose Print… panel. On that panel, select Report Type: Catalog and ☑︎ Show Family. Use an 18 pt Sample size. Then click PDF and choose to either Open in Preview, or Save as PDF.
Looks like this for all installed fonts, though this example is a custom font install:
Although the following installed System fonts are depicted for Catalina, there is no comparable list for Monterey.
The easiest way is to simply look. Especially since Font Book doesn't even list all of the installed fonts.
System/Library/Fonts
Apple Braille Outline 6 Dot.ttf
Apple Braille Outline 8 Dot.ttf
Apple Braille Pinpoint 6 Dot.ttf
Apple Braille Pinpoint 8 Dot.ttf
Apple Braille.ttf
Apple Color Emoji.ttc
Apple Symbols.ttf
AppleSDGothicNeo.ttc
AquaKana.ttc
ArialHB.ttc
Avenir Next Condensed.ttc
Avenir Next.ttc
Avenir.ttc
Courier.ttc
GeezaPro.ttc
Geneva.ttf
HelveLTMM
Helvetica.ttc
HelveticaNeue.ttc
Hiragino Sans GB.ttc
Keyboard.ttf
Kohinoor.ttc
KohinoorBangla.ttc
KohinoorGujarati.ttc
KohinoorTelugu.ttc
LastResort.otf
LucidaGrande.ttc
MarkerFelt.ttc
Menlo.ttc
Monaco.ttf
MuktaMahee.ttc
NewYork.ttf
NewYorkItalic.ttf
Noteworthy.ttc
NotoNastaliq.ttc
NotoSansArmenian.ttc
NotoSansKannada.ttc
NotoSansMyanmar.ttc
NotoSansOriya.ttc
NotoSerifMyanmar.ttc
Optima.ttc
Palatino.ttc
PingFang.ttc
SFArabic.ttf
SFCompact.ttf
SFCompactItalic.ttf
SFCompactRounded.ttf
SFNS.ttf
SFNSItalic.ttf
SFNSMono.ttf
SFNSMonoItalic.ttf
SFNSRounded.ttf
STHeiti Light.ttc
STHeiti Medium.ttc
Symbol.ttf
Thonburi.ttc
Times.ttc
TimesLTMM
ZapfDingbats.ttf
ヒラギノ丸ゴ ProN W4.ttc
ヒラギノ明朝 ProN.ttc
ヒラギノ角ゴシック W0.ttc
ヒラギノ角ゴシック W1.ttc
ヒラギノ角ゴシック W2.ttc
ヒラギノ角ゴシック W3.ttc
ヒラギノ角ゴシック W4.ttc
ヒラギノ角ゴシック W5.ttc
ヒラギノ角ゴシック W6.ttc
ヒラギノ角ゴシック W7.ttc
ヒラギノ角ゴシック W8.ttc
ヒラギノ角ゴシック W9.ttc
Michael XVI wrote:
Historically, each time a new OS is released, Apple posts a Knowledge Base article which lists all the fonts installed by the new OS. I’ve found some of the older lists, but nowhere can I find that list for Monterey.
This could be the pandemic effect. Lots of the little ancillary data files like new screen savers, wallpapers, servers! etc. are missing for Monterey.
Any ideas? It’s time to pair down the font morass but first of all, ya have to know what type Apple included and which are required and shouldn’t be touched.
They are all required and all baked into the operating system. You won't be removing them.
The vast majority of these fonts are document support fonts that you should never even see unless and until you should happen to open a document that needs one. Then, and only then, it should appear.
Unfortunately, it turned out that many 3rd party apps don't support that behaviour. They just list all 400-odd fonts and blame Apple. Long ago I grew tired of arguing with people about this, so I just released an app to fix it and stopped arguing. You can find a link to the app via the link posted above. As the developer, I can't post a link myself. It'll cost you though!
But I'm still fascinated by the rage that this issue generates. People spend $1000/year for software that does fonts incorrectly. Then they don't want to pay $10 for my app to fix it. All because the $1000/year apps refuses to use the APIs provided by the free operating system a decade ago. OK then.
I think the answer marked with the green check has the right lists for the base font install. For other useful info about font management, see
etresoft cannot "clue you in" because he is the creator of the app he mentioned.
but there's nothing in the rules that prevents me from sharing it with you. :)
System/Library/Fonts/Supplemental
Academy Engraved LET Fonts.ttf
Al Nile.ttc
Al Tarikh.ttc
AlBayan.ttc
AmericanTypewriter.ttc
Andale Mono.ttf
Apple Chancery.ttf
AppleGothic.ttf
AppleMyungjo.ttf
Arial Black.ttf
Arial Bold Italic.ttf
Arial Bold.ttf
Arial Italic.ttf
Arial Narrow Bold Italic.ttf
Arial Narrow Bold.ttf
Arial Narrow Italic.ttf
Arial Narrow.ttf
Arial Rounded Bold.ttf
Arial Unicode.ttf
Arial.ttf
Athelas.ttc
Ayuthaya.ttf
Baghdad.ttc
Bangla MN.ttc
Bangla Sangam MN.ttc
Baskerville.ttc
Beirut.ttc
BigCaslon.ttf
Bodoni 72 OS.ttc
Bodoni 72 Smallcaps Book.ttf
Bodoni 72.ttc
Bodoni Ornaments.ttf
Bradley Hand Bold.ttf
Brush Script.ttf
Chalkboard.ttc
ChalkboardSE.ttc
Chalkduster.ttf
Charter.ttc
Cochin.ttc
Comic Sans MS Bold.ttf
Comic Sans MS.ttf
Copperplate.ttc
Corsiva.ttc
Courier New Bold Italic.ttf
Courier New Bold.ttf
Courier New Italic.ttf
Courier New.ttf
Damascus.ttc
DecoTypeNaskh.ttc
Devanagari Sangam MN.ttc
DevanagariMT.ttc
Didot.ttc
DIN Alternate Bold.ttf
DIN Condensed Bold.ttf
Diwan Kufi.ttc
Diwan Thuluth.ttf
EuphemiaCAS.ttc
Farah.ttc
Farisi.ttf
Futura.ttc
Galvji.ttc
Georgia Bold Italic.ttf
Georgia Bold.ttf
Georgia Italic.ttf
Georgia.ttf
GillSans.ttc
Gujarati Sangam MN.ttc
GujaratiMT.ttc
Gurmukhi MN.ttc
Gurmukhi Sangam MN.ttc
Gurmukhi.ttf
Herculanum.ttf
Hoefler Text Ornaments.ttf
Hoefler Text.ttc
Impact.ttf
InaiMathi-MN.ttc
Iowan Old Style.ttc
ITFDevanagari.ttc
Kailasa.ttc
Kannada MN.ttc
Kannada Sangam MN.ttc
Kefa.ttc
Khmer MN.ttc
Khmer Sangam MN.ttf
Kokonor.ttf
Krungthep.ttf
KufiStandardGK.ttc
Lao MN.ttc
Lao Sangam MN.ttf
Luminari.ttf
Malayalam MN.ttc
Malayalam Sangam MN.ttc
Marion.ttc
Microsoft Sans Serif.ttf
Mishafi Gold.ttf
Mishafi.ttf
Mshtakan.ttc
Muna.ttc
Myanmar MN.ttc
Myanmar Sangam MN.ttc
Nadeem.ttc
NewPeninimMT.ttc
NISC18030.ttf
NotoSansAdlam-Regular.ttf
NotoSansAvestan-Regular.ttf
NotoSansBamum-Regular.ttf
NotoSansBassaVah-Regular.ttf
NotoSansBatak-Regular.ttf
NotoSansBhaiksuki-Regular.ttf
NotoSansBrahmi-Regular.ttf
NotoSansBuginese-Regular.ttf
NotoSansBuhid-Regular.ttf
NotoSansCarian-Regular.ttf
NotoSansCaucasianAlbanian-Regular.ttf
NotoSansChakma-Regular.ttf
NotoSansCham-Regular.ttf
NotoSansCoptic-Regular.ttf
NotoSansCuneiform-Regular.ttf
NotoSansCypriot-Regular.ttf
NotoSansDuployan-Regular.ttf
NotoSansEgyptianHieroglyphs-Regular.ttf
NotoSansElbasan-Regular.ttf
NotoSansGlagolitic-Regular.ttf
NotoSansGothic-Regular.ttf
NotoSansGunjalaGondi-Regular.otf
NotoSansHanifiRohingya-Regular.ttf
NotoSansHanunoo-Regular.ttf
NotoSansHatran-Regular.ttf
NotoSansImperialAramaic-Regular.ttf
NotoSansInscriptionalPahlavi-Regular.ttf
NotoSansInscriptionalParthian-Regular.ttf
NotoSansJavanese-Regular.otf
NotoSansKaithi-Regular.ttf
NotoSansKayahLi-Regular.ttf
NotoSansKharoshthi-Regular.ttf
NotoSansKhojki-Regular.ttf
NotoSansKhudawadi-Regular.ttf
NotoSansLepcha-Regular.ttf
NotoSansLimbu-Regular.ttf
NotoSansLinearA-Regular.ttf
NotoSansLinearB-Regular.ttf
NotoSansLisu-Regular.ttf
NotoSansLycian-Regular.ttf
NotoSansLydian-Regular.ttf
NotoSansMahajani-Regular.ttf
NotoSansMandaic-Regular.ttf
NotoSansManichaean-Regular.ttf
NotoSansMarchen-Regular.ttf
NotoSansMasaramGondi-Regular.otf
NotoSansMeeteiMayek-Regular.ttf
NotoSansMendeKikakui-Regular.ttf
NotoSansMeroitic-Regular.ttf
NotoSansMiao-Regular.ttf
NotoSansModi-Regular.ttf
NotoSansMongolian-Regular.ttf
NotoSansMro-Regular.ttf
NotoSansMultani-Regular.ttf
NotoSansNabataean-Regular.ttf
NotoSansNewa-Regular.ttf
NotoSansNewTaiLue-Regular.ttf
NotoSansNKo-Regular.ttf
NotoSansOlChiki-Regular.ttf
NotoSansOldHungarian-Regular.ttf
NotoSansOldItalic-Regular.ttf
NotoSansOldNorthArabian-Regular.ttf
NotoSansOldPermic-Regular.ttf
NotoSansOldPersian-Regular.ttf
NotoSansOldSouthArabian-Regular.ttf
NotoSansOldTurkic-Regular.ttf
NotoSansOsage-Regular.ttf
NotoSansOsmanya-Regular.ttf
NotoSansPahawhHmong-Regular.ttf
NotoSansPalmyrene-Regular.ttf
NotoSansPauCinHau-Regular.ttf
NotoSansPhagsPa-Regular.ttf
NotoSansPhoenician-Regular.ttf
NotoSansPsalterPahlavi-Regular.ttf
NotoSansRejang-Regular.ttf
NotoSansSamaritan-Regular.ttf
NotoSansSaurashtra-Regular.ttf
NotoSansSharada-Regular.ttf
NotoSansSiddham-Regular.ttf
NotoSansSoraSompeng-Regular.ttf
NotoSansSundanese-Regular.ttf
NotoSansSylotiNagri-Regular.ttf
NotoSansSyriac-Regular.ttf
NotoSansTagalog-Regular.ttf
NotoSansTagbanwa-Regular.ttf
NotoSansTaiLe-Regular.ttf
NotoSansTaiTham-Regular.ttf
NotoSansTaiViet-Regular.ttf
NotoSansTakri-Regular.ttf
NotoSansThaana-Regular.ttf
NotoSansTifinagh-Regular.ttf
NotoSansTirhuta-Regular.ttf
NotoSansUgaritic-Regular.ttf
NotoSansVai-Regular.ttf
NotoSansWancho-Regular.ttf
NotoSansWarangCiti-Regular.ttf
NotoSansYi-Regular.ttf
NotoSerifAhom-Regular.ttf
NotoSerifBalinese-Regular.ttf
NotoSerifYezidi-Regular.otf
Oriya MN.ttc
Oriya Sangam MN.ttc
Papyrus.ttc
PartyLET-plain.ttf
Phosphate.ttc
PlantagenetCherokee.ttf
PTMono.ttc
PTSans.ttc
PTSerif.ttc
PTSerifCaption.ttc
Raanana.ttc
Rockwell.ttc
Sana.ttc
Sathu.ttf
Savoye LET.ttc
Seravek.ttc
Shree714.ttc
SignPainter.ttc
Silom.ttf
Sinhala MN.ttc
Sinhala Sangam MN.ttc
Skia.ttf
SnellRoundhand.ttc
Songti.ttc
STIXGeneral.otf
STIXGeneralBol.otf
STIXGeneralBolIta.otf
STIXGeneralItalic.otf
STIXIntDBol.otf
STIXIntDReg.otf
STIXIntSmBol.otf
STIXIntSmReg.otf
STIXIntUpBol.otf
STIXIntUpDBol.otf
STIXIntUpDReg.otf
STIXIntUpReg.otf
STIXIntUpSmBol.otf
STIXIntUpSmReg.otf
STIXNonUni.otf
STIXNonUniBol.otf
STIXNonUniBolIta.otf
STIXNonUniIta.otf
STIXSizFiveSymReg.otf
STIXSizFourSymBol.otf
STIXSizFourSymReg.otf
STIXSizOneSymBol.otf
STIXSizOneSymReg.otf
STIXSizThreeSymBol.otf
STIXSizThreeSymReg.otf
STIXSizTwoSymBol.otf
STIXSizTwoSymReg.otf
STIXVar.otf
STIXVarBol.otf
SukhumvitSet.ttc
SuperClarendon.ttc
Tahoma Bold.ttf
Tahoma.ttf
Tamil MN.ttc
Tamil Sangam MN.ttc
Telugu MN.ttc
Telugu Sangam MN.ttc
Times New Roman Bold Italic.ttf
Times New Roman Bold.ttf
Times New Roman Italic.ttf
Times New Roman.ttf
Trattatello.ttf
Trebuchet MS Bold Italic.ttf
Trebuchet MS Bold.ttf
Trebuchet MS Italic.ttf
Trebuchet MS.ttf
Verdana Bold Italic.ttf
Verdana Bold.ttf
Verdana Italic.ttf
Verdana.ttf
Waseem.ttc
Webdings.ttf
Wingdings 2.ttf
Wingdings 3.ttf
Wingdings.ttf
Zapfino.ttf
Thank you, Tom, for that link. In the absence of Apple’s list, it looks super thorough. I’m not sure I understand the distinction between the various lists that were generated, in both responses. Any clarity?
Great research!
Yes, I found the JKL Studios document and basically have been using it in conjunction with the Extensis Best Practices Guide to macOS Font Management (except it has not yet been updated to reflect Monterey). The FontBook export you described sounds, at the very least, like abracadabra so I can't wait to check it out.
Meanwhile, completely off topic, there is a Terminal command that allows you to select and copy text in QuickLook:
defaults write com.apple.finder QLEnableTextSelection -bool TRUE; killall Finder
Very convenient.
Thanks, Kurt et al, much appreciated.
At this point, the bigger question is what can be removed and set aside and what must not be touched.
If I’m remembering correctly, in your super thorough Font Management in macOS, the required fonts for each new OS changes (subtracted from or added to), so what could be removed in, for example, Catalina, doesn’t hold true for Monterey and perhaps Monterey has added type which is new and should be left alone.
I think I thought this big, lean and mean clean up was going to be fairly straightforward and it certainly is not.
I appreciate the time everyone has put in to assist in the process. I’m learning a lot; it’s an interesting aspect of the OS with some practical Typography/Prepress added to the mix. Thanks to all.
I think unfortunately Font Book does not list all the fonts installed by MacOS in its latest versions.
The QLEnableTextSelection does not work on Big Sur 11.6.4, but it does on Monterey 12.2.1. Thanks. Waiting for Apple to break this again… 🤓
Now I’m intrigued. An app that at least hides all that nonsense crushing my font menus? I’m not seeing how I can have a look above, please clue me in.
Now that’s teamwork. Thank you!
List of Fonts Supplied by Monterey Installation