Why does Triald quit unexpectedly in OS ?

Does it matter that Triald quits unexpectedly in Monterey?

Posted on Apr 3, 2022 6:16 PM

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Posted on Apr 5, 2022 9:48 AM

AMCarter3 wrote:

Yes, I've seen that posting. It doesn't shed any light on why the Triald process exists

It might be more useful now. It links to an external site that often posts conspiracy theories about Apple. I had seen these two threads here, but didn't think much about them. But by coincidence, I saw some of that conspiracy content repeated elsewhere. So, I put on my computer private eye hat, superficially researched the topic for almost a full minute, and discovered that triald is a machine-learning system designed to improve Siri. I'm thinking about patenting my research technique. I call it "looking at the files".


But anyway, I added a couple of posts to the referenced site and hopefully put an end to the conspiracy theory.


Yeah. That never happens.

why it crashes

If someone is experiencing crashes, the burden is on them, as the only one that has crash logs, to review and/or post them. Ideally, they would also include a list of all 3rd party system modifications and custom configuration changes that they've made.


Yeah. That never happens.

what if any are the consequences of it crashing.

This one is pretty easy. Since it is a system task, it will continuously get restarted, and continuously crash, forever. This will slow down the computer to some degree as it is constantly starting up a new triald process and recording crash logs.


These are the wages of mucking around inside an operating system.

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Apr 5, 2022 9:48 AM in response to AMCarter3

AMCarter3 wrote:

Yes, I've seen that posting. It doesn't shed any light on why the Triald process exists

It might be more useful now. It links to an external site that often posts conspiracy theories about Apple. I had seen these two threads here, but didn't think much about them. But by coincidence, I saw some of that conspiracy content repeated elsewhere. So, I put on my computer private eye hat, superficially researched the topic for almost a full minute, and discovered that triald is a machine-learning system designed to improve Siri. I'm thinking about patenting my research technique. I call it "looking at the files".


But anyway, I added a couple of posts to the referenced site and hopefully put an end to the conspiracy theory.


Yeah. That never happens.

why it crashes

If someone is experiencing crashes, the burden is on them, as the only one that has crash logs, to review and/or post them. Ideally, they would also include a list of all 3rd party system modifications and custom configuration changes that they've made.


Yeah. That never happens.

what if any are the consequences of it crashing.

This one is pretty easy. Since it is a system task, it will continuously get restarted, and continuously crash, forever. This will slow down the computer to some degree as it is constantly starting up a new triald process and recording crash logs.


These are the wages of mucking around inside an operating system.

Apr 4, 2022 7:10 AM in response to AMCarter3

1 - Suggest restarting in Safe Mode. This will perform a Disk Repair, clear cache files and only load Apple Software, extensions and fonts. The boot up will be slow and can take some time - Normal.


2 - Does the issue present in this mode ?


3 - If not - there could be something in the main User Account playing up. To further isolate this - Set up users, guests, and groups on Mac. Then log out of the Main User account and log into the dummy account and test again if the issue persists.


4 - If the issue is present in the dummy account - then, this appears to be a System Wide issue on the computer.


5 - If the issue persists after attempting each of the above steps, in the order that are presented, please advise for additional Trouble Shooting

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