How Do You Remove “Rat” software from an iPad?

I use my iPad almost exclusively. I received a ransomware email claiming to have used RAT software.

The sender said my computer was hacked months ago and the hacker saved information such as: my browsing history, contacts, messages. The hacker claimed to connect to my webcam remotely, and turned off the indicator so that I would not notice the hacker recording me.

This is RAT software.

The hacker said that all the videos of me have already been saved at remote servers.

The hacker claimed to continuously track all my activities using a trojan virus which has a

remote-control feature, something like TeamViewer.

  • What is TeamViewer? From Wikipedia; “TeamViewer is a remote access and remote control computer software,… is free of charge for non-commercial use. It has been installed on more than two billion devices.“
  • TeamViewer has an iOS version.
  • Again, from Wikipedia; “TeamViewer and similar programs can be abused for technical support scams. … They then use a pretext to obtain money from their victims.”


Bottom line; I’m wondering if any other iPad users have had experiences in removing malware, including RAT software.

iPad Air 2, iOS 12

Posted on May 9, 2022 6:46 PM

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Posted on May 9, 2022 6:56 PM

You have to actually have malware, to start with. Which you don’t.


These messages are scams.


Nothing happened, other than an email with some fascinatingly bogus claims.


Ignore it.


Recognize and avoid phishing messages, phony support calls, and other scams - Apple Support


[How do I know his is nothing? If the scammer had even a fraction of what they claim to have, they’d send you “proof”. Something from your camera roll or photos, etc. But they don’t, and they sent you a generic scam message.]


One of the other common scams will send you a password you’ve used on another website, and when the breached website used weak password hash or worse. if you’re re-using passwords, this scam is way worse than the scam message you just received. If you have not re-used passwords, you can ignore this other password scam, too.


Here’s a longer write-up on one of these scams:


https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/07/sextortion-scam-uses-recipients-hacked-passwords/


There are lots of these scam messages around, and the scammers are getting ever-more creative.

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May 9, 2022 6:56 PM in response to bb-15

You have to actually have malware, to start with. Which you don’t.


These messages are scams.


Nothing happened, other than an email with some fascinatingly bogus claims.


Ignore it.


Recognize and avoid phishing messages, phony support calls, and other scams - Apple Support


[How do I know his is nothing? If the scammer had even a fraction of what they claim to have, they’d send you “proof”. Something from your camera roll or photos, etc. But they don’t, and they sent you a generic scam message.]


One of the other common scams will send you a password you’ve used on another website, and when the breached website used weak password hash or worse. if you’re re-using passwords, this scam is way worse than the scam message you just received. If you have not re-used passwords, you can ignore this other password scam, too.


Here’s a longer write-up on one of these scams:


https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/07/sextortion-scam-uses-recipients-hacked-passwords/


There are lots of these scam messages around, and the scammers are getting ever-more creative.

May 10, 2022 6:30 AM in response to bb-15

As already commented by others, the email that you have received is itself a scam - and is preying upon potential gullibility of the recipient.


Recognize and avoid phishing messages, phony support calls, and other scams - Apple Support


Due to the system architecture of iOS/iPadOS, unless jailbroken (don’t go there!), your iPad is not susceptible to traditional malware infection per-se. However, as with all computer systems, in addition to scams, there are still technical vulnerabilities and exploits to which you remain vulnerable. For older devices, no longer benefiting from regular security updates, the risk of an unpatched vulnerability being exploited increases.


For iOS/iPadOS, the majority of threats to which you will be invariably exposed will surface via web pages or embedded links within email or received text messages. These browser-based attacks can largely be mitigated on Apple devices by installing a good Content and Ad-blocking product. One of the very best and most respected within the Apple App Store - designed for iPad, iPhone and Mac - is 1Blocker for Safari.

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/1blocker-for-safari/id1365531024


1Blocker is highly configurable - and crucially does not rely upon an external proxy-service of dubious provenance. All processing takes place on your device - and contrary to expectations, Safari will run faster and more efficiently. 


Unwanted content is not simply filtered after download (a technique used by basic/inferior products), but instead undesirable embedded content blocked form download. A further benefit on metered services, such as cellular connections where you data may be capped or chargeable, this not only improves speed but also saves you money.  1Blocker has also recently introduced its new “Firewall” functions - that are explicitly designed to block “trackers”. Being implemented at the network-layer, this additional protection works across all Apps. Recent updates to 1Blocker has introduced additional network extensions, extending protection to other Apps.


A further measure to improve protection is to use a security focussed DNS Service in preference to automatic DNS settings. This can either be set on a per-device basis in Settings, or can be set-up on your home Router - and in so doing extends the benefit of this specific protection to other devices on your local network. I recommend using one of the following DNS services - in particular Quad9 - for which IPv4 and IPv6 server addresses are listed:


Quad9 (recommended)


9.9.9.9

149.112.112.112

2620:fe::fe

2620:fe::9



OpenDNS


208.67.222.222

208.67.220.220

2620:0:ccc::2

2620:0:ccd::2


Cloudflare+APNIC


1.1.1.1

1.0.0.1

2606:4700:4700::1111

2606:4700:4700::1001



Use of the above DNS services will help to shield you from “known bad” websites and URLs - and when used alongside 1Blocker, or other Content Blocker provides defense in depth.


There are advanced techniques to further “harden” iOS/iPadOS (such as using DoH, DoT and DNSSEC). Apple has recently introduced its new Private Relay to its iCloud+ subscribers - in part employing DoH as an element of this new functionality.


I hope this information and insight proves to be helpful. 



May 18, 2022 1:35 PM in response to bb-15

Another issue that is solved.

I mentioned that after my wife and I changed her email password, it was hacked in 2 days. It was not hacked.

Solution; Spectrum had changed the password but we didn’t know that until today. I got a postcard from Spectrum today, 5/18/22, 9 days after my original post & contacts with Spectrum by phone. The postcard said; “we noticed some unusual activity on your email account. As a result we have reset your password.”

When we called Spectrum on 5/9/22 & in a follow up call, Spectrum tech support said nothing about Spectrum changing that password.


Now that the password change issue has been solved, it’s pretty clear that the original RAT email was phishing as many here said.

Two messages below were very helpful about this.

Michael Black very clearly pointed out that; “remote access Trojan malware’s cannot do anything on an un-jailbroken iOS or iPadOS device. The inherent security built into iOS and its file system prevents such malware from accessing system resources, which it would need to do anything.”

Also, MrHoffman posted a link to a site about a crypto extortion scheme involving a RAT malware claim. This site explained how the hackers probably got my wife’s email password. This site explains the phishing involving the RAT claim and crypto demand which was in an email to our iPad. I’ll repeat that link here.


Thanks again for all the responses.


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May 13, 2022 12:33 PM in response to bb-15

Please note that remote access Trojan malware’s cannot do anything on an un-jailbroken iOS or iPadOS device. The inherent security built into iOS and its file system prevents such malware from accessing system resources, which it would need to do anything.


RATs also have to be downloaded in an infected package to install. On iOS or iPadOS that install is already prevented by the operating system since the malware needs root access to install, and iOS will not allow that access to any program or process.


Even MacOS would require a user to grant admin access to get a RAT infected download to install by typing in their admin password.


So unless you’ve jailbroken your device, you don’t have a RAT (their are indeed some in the wild for packages installable on jailbroken devices).

May 12, 2022 2:25 PM in response to bb-15

Again, that hilarious "RAT" message is utter and unmitigated rubbish. A fraud. A lie. Learn from it, delete it, and move on.


This and many other scams are commonplace.


Here is an Apple write-up on just some of the many scams endemic:


... Recognize and avoid phishing messages, phony support calls, and other scams - Apple Support


I'm unfamiliar with Spectrum security practices. You'll need to discuss that with them. If they have a security code mechanism available for identifying callers, consider establishing it with them.


It's quite possible the Wi-Fi device is misconfigured or malfunctioning, or that the local Wi-Fi networks are just jammed with competing Wi-Fi networks, or other and far more mundane causes. All that and the usual weak and re-used passwords are a far more common source of issues than are "hackers" and RATs. For the Wi-Fi, get Spectrum out for a look.


Irrespective of why or how or who with that iPad, if you share an Apple device, you'll get misrouted notifications, and other activities will be conflated.


Are hacks technically possible? Sure. They're rare, and so far they've all been targeted. To be blunt, you're almost certainly not worth bothering with a RAT or a device hack or the rest, too. Far more common are exploits using phishing and other such, or reusing passwords, or other security mistakes. Phishing such as that RAT message.



May 12, 2022 7:24 AM in response to bb-15

An iPad cannot be reliably shared, particularly if there are other devices associated with the Apple ID. Apple expects a single person associated with a single Apple ID, while sharing an Apple ID ends badly.


When iCloud Keychain is used, the password will be available across all devices sharing the same Apple ID.


Wi-Fi passwords are typically preferred to be fourteen or more characters, given security issues found particularly with older Wi-Fi devices and protocols.


You’ll also want to establish a “PIN” or security code with Spectrum support, if they offer that PIN or passcode.


The easiest ways to “hack” here are to hack (***, scam) you, to “hack” their proximity and physical access to you and/or to your devices, or to “hack” (***, scam) Spectrum support (claiming to be you).


You’ll need to discuss this router and this email password issue with Spectrum support.

May 12, 2022 1:51 PM in response to MrHoffman

What my wife and I are trying today is to turn off the new iPad and to use an older but still capable iPad (that we have stored). This is to test if there was RAT software, using something like TeamViewer, installed on the new iPad.


As for our sharing an iPad. My wife and I have separate Apple IDs on separate iPhones. We just share an iPad using my wife’s Apple ID.


As for a Spectrum security code, we have one of those on our Spectrum account on our paper billing.

How was the Spectrum password changed?

One possibility is that the hacker cracked the new Spectrum password in two days.

Second, we do have temporary access codes from Spectrum in texts and the hackers might have gotten the temporary codes to make a password change. If they used this to change the password, this is further evidence that the hackers have installed RAT software on the new iPad and have looked at our texts. This is something the hacker claimed they could do as I explained in my OP.


We will continue taking steps to protect our data and privacy. If necessary we will do a restore to factory settings on the new iPad. We have not yet reached that point but we will explore all options.

May 13, 2022 8:03 AM in response to bb-15

You’re sharing an iPad, on Spectrum. You’re unlikely to be worth a million dollar hack.


If you are a political dissident, investigative journalist, have access to sensitive or classified or substantial financial data, these calculations might shift, and you will want and need actual tailored security advice. For most of us, we’re scammed, not hacked. Or some glitch or outage or failure causes problems.


Whether this is an iCloud bug, some other sort of social engineering, weak passwords here or elsewhere, Spectrum glitches or outages (reports of those Spectrum outages and glacial performance this week in various places, too), there’s almost certainly a mundane explanation.


So far, there’s no clear indication of compromise, either.

May 12, 2022 3:37 PM in response to MrHoffman

MrHoffman; thank you for your feedback and suggestions;


First; As for the sharing concern.

“Irrespective of why or how or who with that iPad, if you share an Apple device, you'll get misrouted notifications, and other activities will be conflated.”


Sorry, I was not clear in my OP. My email, texts and notifications are done on my iPhone. I do not use email, texts or notifications on the new iPad I mentioned in the OP. Everything on that iPad is under my wife’s Apple ID.


Second; as for;


“the usual weak and re-used passwords are a far more common source of issues than are "hackers" and RATs.”


The password which was hacked in 2 days was pretty strong and had not been reused.


Third;


”I'm unfamiliar with Spectrum security practices. You'll need to discuss that with them. If they have a security code mechanism available for identifying callers, consider establishing it with them.”


As I wrote, we have a security code with Spectrum. Somehow the hacker was able to get around that. And my wife & I were in contact with Spectrum each time the email password was hacked to reset the password.


Fourth; as for;

”Are hacks technically possible? Sure. They're rare,”


I realize a hack on an iPad is rare. This is why I started this thread to get feedback from a broader audience.

However, I am looking at information from Apple and outside websites. There are websites which discuss how to get rid of malware on an iPad (& iPhone). I just wondered if someone else had a similar experience to mine.

May 13, 2022 11:02 AM in response to MrHoffman

Thank you for another reply.

A theme of the comments to me so far is that there is not enough evidence of a hack to my iPad.

To me a changed second password to Spectrum which was hacked in 2 days, which went past a Spectrum security code, again in two days, is not mundane.


I’ll add that in the lengthy email from the hacker, it described a web site visited by the user. That was a correct description. No phishing email could do that.


As part of my career and volunteer work, I was involved in personal computer support. I understand that phishing emails are a problem in obtaining personal information.

But I’ve also seen company Windows PCs that were infected by malware.


Some type of malware being installed on this iPad is the most logical explanation for what the hacker email said and the second email password change.

I have gotten information on how to remove malware from an iPad/iPhone from the web.

May 13, 2022 11:59 AM in response to bb-15

PS. Another possibility is that Spectrum has been hacked. Spectrum user information was stolen in 2018.

That 2018 hack would explain the hacker email to my iPad having the first password.

The second password being hacked in two days could indicate a vulnerability with Spectrum.

My wife changing her email to another company is something we have considered.

May 13, 2022 12:43 PM in response to Michael Black

Thanks for that. It helps in what steps to take.

As I mentioned, my wife and I are considering doing something about her Spectrum email. Spectrum account info was hacked in 2018. The hacker email to us would have had password information from the 2018 stolen info. However, Spectrum’s vulnerability to hacking could be an ongoing problem as shown in the second password being compromised in 2 days.

Right now we are waiting to see if my wife’s 3rd Spectrum password continues to work over the next couple of weeks.

We’ll go from there.

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