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How can I get the old Modular Watch face back?

WatchOS 9 removed the old Modular watch face and renamed the Infographic Modular to Modular. How can I get the old Modular back? I need the larger numbers for some of the complications like temperature.


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Apple Watch Series 4

Posted on Sep 12, 2022 8:24 PM

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Posted on Sep 15, 2022 4:10 PM

I am SO frustrated with the new modular face! There is no option to put the day/date in the middle. What is Apple thinking!?! The least they could do is keep the old face too! They added a second modular face and that is worse! Can we roll back the update? Very upsetting.

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Jan 5, 2023 7:51 AM in response to JLLindahl

Well guys, here is a solution that I've implemented. It may not work for most, but maybe it can help some...


Quick backstory:

We've had 5 Apple Watches. S0 38 Stainless, S0 42 Alum, S3 42 Alum, S4 40 Alum, and S5 40 Alum. Sadly 3 got stolen at once, leaving us with a S0 38 Stainless that Apple repaired in 2020 (sent a refurb), and the S5 Alum wich is the one that got "updated" and ruined the modular face that I used every day for work (2 world times, weather, stocks, etc.)


I swapped my wife's Series 0 38mm for my Series 5 40mm. The S0 is too old for OS9, so the old modular face is there and is more legible than the newer watch with the larger screen.


So... if you don't need the new fangled features of a Series 4 onward, get a Series 3. They're still available super cheap and your old complications are there! (Hopefully apple doesn't try to hard to "update" that.)


Solution #2: Get a normal watch! If you are not using the health or fitness stuff, get a G-Shock, Seiko, Tissot, Rolex, whatever. Many of them have large numbers, and complications that will never be changed by a dumb software update. Even a $30 Casio might be good enough. I recently got a G-Shock GWM-5610U, and it's great! Solar powered, syncs by radio, has a legible world time, etc. (My Apple watch has sat on it's charger quite a lot lately.) In a few weeks I'm looking at ordering a Casio Lineage LCW-M100TSE (Titanium, sapphire, solar, radio, legible digital complication...) If that looks and functions as reviewed, my Apple watch days may be over.


We were about to buy 2 new Apple watches this year, but no way. This whole experience has shown me there are other options. I know Apple doesn't give a flying squirrel's tail that I don't buy 2 watches. Their hype machine will bring in loads more hipsters than they lose old folks. But at least I know I've voted with my wallet.





Jan 5, 2023 9:46 AM in response to neonart

Apple absolutely reads these forums. You should also use the feedback link. This assertion that Apple doesn’t monitor these pages is based in partial (mis)information. Apple collects case notes at every official point of contact. Case notes are harvested for feedback. Apple has user studies. The feedback form is not Apple’s sole or even key point of feedback. You can’t become as successful as Apple relying solely on a feedback form that most users don’t even know exists.

Jan 5, 2023 9:57 AM in response to David Hill9

David Hill9 wrote:

Apple absolutely reads these forums. You should also use the feedback link. This assertion that Apple doesn’t monitor these pages is based in partial (mis)information. Apple collects case notes at every official point of contact. Case notes are harvested for feedback. Apple has user studies. The feedback form is not Apple’s sole or even key point of feedback. You can’t become as successful as Apple relying solely on a feedback form that most users don’t even know exists.

The Hosts and Community Specialists, the only Apple employees charged with the daily reading of these forums, do not have time to take "case notes" on posts here. They barely have the ability to keep up with making sure that people adhere to the terms of use. On some occasions, if there is a known issue, engineers may be tasked to search the forums for reports and may even reach out to the posters.


Apple has become successful while largely ignoring customer feedback. Historically, Apple has operated on the premise that they know better than the customer what the customer should have. It's changed some since Mr. Cook took the helm and there have certainly been some recent examples, especially in small interface issues, of Apple responding to feedback.

Jan 5, 2023 10:08 AM in response to lobsterghost1

I also have “direct access” to Apple, but if I detailed it here (not that I would), one of you would just get it deleted. So I know what I know, and you know what you know. Your insistence on partial knowledge is amazing. Do you assert that Apple ignores all case notes from Apple Genius Bar? From AppleCare phone support? From other points of contact? That’s pretty funny if you really believe that. I understand that some parties within Apple are agendized to push you to the feedback form, but if you actually believe that’s the only or most likely way to be heard that’s interesting.

Jan 5, 2023 10:27 AM in response to David Hill9

David Hill9 wrote:

I also have “direct access” to Apple, but if I detailed it here (not that I would), one of you would just get it deleted.

We are users. We can't delete things. Only the Hosts can do that. And they only do that if you violate the terms of use, not because we "get" them to.


Do you assert that Apple ignores all case notes from Apple Genius Bar? From AppleCare phone support? From other points of contact?

Absolutely not. It's rather odd that you would read "doesn't read the Forums for feedback" and come up with the notion that we think Apple support doesn't keep records or refer to them.


I understand that some parties within Apple are agendized to push you to the feedback form, but if you actually believe that’s the only or most likely way to be heard that’s interesting.

It's fascinating what conclusions you jump to with partial knowledge. The Hosts are lovely people but they have never told me what to post, never suggested I post something. They have, on occasion, requested I dial back a bit on the snark


Jan 5, 2023 10:31 AM in response to David Hill9

I make no such assertions. Only that Apple isn't on this forum, for the most part. And this is a pointless discussion. No one here changed the Modular Face. No one here can bring it back as it was. Whether you or I am correct in what Apple "may or may not glean" from these forums makes absolutely NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER.


Ps: We don't "get things deleted." We don't have the ability to delete anything. Only the forum hosts delete content, which is in violation of the terms of use users agreed to, when they joined the forum.

Jan 5, 2023 12:59 PM in response to lobsterghost1

The silliest thing about this discussion is that you ask me to say things which are not permitted and then claim victory based on that. Weeks ago I stated some of my literal forum experience here, but it got deleted after you guys reported it. Apparently my answer violated the term that says we can’t discuss moderation? Effectively speaking, you guys with the points can discuss moderation, but the rest of us can’t? This sort of hyper procedural focus that distracts from all actual conversation is why I don’t come here much any longer. Though this comment has not broken any rules, I expect it will disappear.

Jan 5, 2023 1:04 PM in response to David Hill9

David Hill9 wrote:

I’ve been using this forum since at least 1999. I cant explain the ID resets, and most of my posts were from a former work account. In any case, on any given issue the longevity of a user is only as relevant as the circumstances permit. A new user cannot be assumed to have less knowledge than long-time users.

I don't judge people based on the number of points they have. I judge them based on the content of their posts.

Jan 5, 2023 1:07 PM in response to David Hill9

David Hill9 wrote:
The silliest thing about this discussion is that you ask me to say things which are not permitted and then claim victory based on that. Weeks ago I stated some of my literal forum experience here, but it got deleted after you guys reported it.

Apple employees do read every post (just not for feedback) so, the fact that you've had posts deleted doesn't necessarily mean anyone reported you for anything.


you guys with the points can discuss moderation, but the rest of us can’t?

None of us have really discussed moderation other than to say it's not our responsibility.

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