Queries regarding unknown faces - smart album

I want to know whether what I am doing in photos is returning the expected behaviour.


Like a few posts which I have seen on this forum I am trying to weed out the unknown faces. I have followed the advice started in this blog & a further condition found here. Essentially saying to create a one condition where the “Person” is set to the empty string. The second contain which is it the person not being equal to % yielded no extra results for me. The conditions are shown below in the figure.



However after quickly glancing through a few of these photos I have encountered a couple problems.


  1. Photos with no faces detected get added to this album
  2. Some photos with all the faces identified still creep through.


The first issue is something i'm willing to pass off as the person is indeed blank despite being slightly annoying. However the second issue I don't understand at all and wondering what's going on. An example of such a photo is shown below. Where there are no more faces to be identified. Is something going wrong here.


Are there any way to fix either of these issues.




Posted on Sep 13, 2022 9:25 AM

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Posted on Sep 16, 2022 10:06 AM

It seems to be fruitless, to invest too much work into this, as the behavior of the smart album is changing with every system version. Apple removed the built-in album showing all unnamed faces with macOs 10.13 High Sierra, in favor of syncing the faces with iCloud. Before Photos 3 on High Sierra it made sense to find the unnamed faces and either name them or reject them (for artifacts, that are no face at all or strangers in the background, that we do not know or do not care about. In the newer system versions we cannot remove the faces we do not care about. Finding the faces we want to name would be searching for a needle in a haystack. Apple wants to keep each and every detected face around, probably they are needed for the artificial intelligence algorithms for screen recognition. Since High Sierra we are supposed to look only for unnamed faces of the people we have added to the People album. Once we have added people to People, the "Confirm additional Faces" dialog is supposed to present us all additional unnamed faces looking similar to this person.


I am now creating my own "All unnamed faces" album with the help of keywords. Instead of rejecting faces (what is no longer possible) I am tagging each photo that does not show a face I would want to name with the keywords "Strangers" or "No_People". This way I have to deal with photos without relevant faces only once.

A smart album with the rules

  • Match all:
  • Person is not (leave the name empty)
  • Keyword is not Strangers
  • Keyword is not No_People


will then show only photos with at least one unnamed face in macOs 12 Monterey.




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Sep 16, 2022 10:06 AM in response to havvyhat

It seems to be fruitless, to invest too much work into this, as the behavior of the smart album is changing with every system version. Apple removed the built-in album showing all unnamed faces with macOs 10.13 High Sierra, in favor of syncing the faces with iCloud. Before Photos 3 on High Sierra it made sense to find the unnamed faces and either name them or reject them (for artifacts, that are no face at all or strangers in the background, that we do not know or do not care about. In the newer system versions we cannot remove the faces we do not care about. Finding the faces we want to name would be searching for a needle in a haystack. Apple wants to keep each and every detected face around, probably they are needed for the artificial intelligence algorithms for screen recognition. Since High Sierra we are supposed to look only for unnamed faces of the people we have added to the People album. Once we have added people to People, the "Confirm additional Faces" dialog is supposed to present us all additional unnamed faces looking similar to this person.


I am now creating my own "All unnamed faces" album with the help of keywords. Instead of rejecting faces (what is no longer possible) I am tagging each photo that does not show a face I would want to name with the keywords "Strangers" or "No_People". This way I have to deal with photos without relevant faces only once.

A smart album with the rules

  • Match all:
  • Person is not (leave the name empty)
  • Keyword is not Strangers
  • Keyword is not No_People


will then show only photos with at least one unnamed face in macOs 12 Monterey.




Sep 16, 2022 11:28 AM in response to havvyhat

If you name all strangers with the same name, you may mess up the face recognition. Photos might learn that the person Stranger is an average person, looking like everyone, and then assign all other people 's faces to Stranger. I would not risk it.

That why I am adding the keyword instead. It is quickly done with a single keyboard shortcut, when the Keyword manager is open.



Sep 16, 2022 11:32 AM in response to havvyhat

Naming every blank "stranger" sure sounds like a lot of work! I think that there is little value in using the face ID at all. I've decided, I think, that what I want is to be able to find all the pictures with, say, MaryLou in them. So when Photos identifies MaryLou in new pictures that I upload, I select them all and give all those the keyword MaryLou. Any other pictures I find with MaryLou in them, I add the keyword without messing with the face circle. From then on I just search for the keyword. The only time I feel I need the face identified is in family reunion pictures with people I don't really recognize or that I know my granddaughter won't recognize, but she ought to know. For all the rest a keyword saying "here's a picture with MaryLou in it" seems good enough-- and way, way easier to do.

Sep 16, 2022 11:46 AM in response to léonie

I have started to do what you suggested. I've got a smart folder that excludes the people who show up most often, and I going through those, quite quickly, really, and adding the keyword NoPeopleIKnow, skipping the few that have folks who show up more rarely. Thanks for the suggestion! I haven't thought of why I should divide these into strangers and nobody.


By the way, what does "Person is not (leave the name empty)" do? I'm not sure I see the pattern...


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