Ventura is not saving printing presets (fully)

With Ventura I have (painfully) discovered, that especially the specific paper tray (e.g. tray 2 on my printer with multiple trays) is not saved in the printing presets (neither for this print job, nor globally for all).

So before printing my DHL parcel labels I always need to manually select the correct tray. Doing that for each label can be quite annoying.

For me it seems one bug in Ventura 13.0, that has not existed with Monterey before.

iMac 27″, macOS 13.0

Posted on Oct 24, 2022 3:29 PM

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This is not a Vendor driver issue. This is a Ventura bug even with the built-in Airprint driver.


Presets ignore Double Sided when I set it to "On (Short Edge)". It remembers the setting if it is set to "On" (Long Edge in Monterey and previous), but any preset set to "On (Short Edge)" loads with Double Sided turned off.

Posted on Jan 1, 2023 6:33 AM

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Mar 29, 2023 10:42 AM in response to dowsmith

I'm not sure what the Paper Feed issue is, but anyone who does a lot of printing in macOS is livid at how Apple broke the printing subsystem -- not only is the new UI terrible, but printer presets are 100% broken, and it's a nightmare as now you have to manually set each printer option when you run a print job. A huge pain in the neck when you have multiple printers with multiple paper trays, different media, sizes, etc. And it's very easy to make one mistake when doing this, ruining an entire print job.


I wish I had never upgraded to Ventura, and Apple still has not fixed this. The automatic link embedding is just another example of terrible software decisions Apple makes.

Mar 29, 2023 10:48 AM in response to Sim-SR

I've also considered using one of my Windows machines to run print jobs, but I wasn't able to see any type of printer presets like macOS has. If there is such a thing, I'd like to know about it, as it wastes a lot of my time having to setup each print job by hand, and then sometimes making a mistake and ruining a print job. I should bill Apple for my time and costs due to their boneheaded software development.

Mar 29, 2023 10:53 AM in response to AtariAge

We use Oki printers and they have saveable presets in Windows, similar to Mac OS (except that they still work). Not sure if that's an Oki software/driver thing. I feel your pain about setting up each job - to add insult to injury, I've run tests and have noticed that sometimes Ventura reverts to default and wrong settings when I have a large queue, even if I didn't make a mistake at input. This is why we now have to babysit the machine and do 1 job at a time...

Mar 29, 2023 1:59 PM in response to Sim-SR

I wouldn't go so far, I still loooove apple on so many other levels. yes but this is a big pain in the neck. it's crazy. I have a few Xerox, Oki's and it's so hard to do the tray settings, and it doesn't hold when u go to other options. it's maddening!!! Apple! fix it!!!! c'mon we sticking with you for a reason!!!!

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