Ventura Network Locations gone. Alternative?

Since for whatever reason Apple now decides that the System Settings should look like an Ipad/Iphone (seriously why???) one of my most work related used feature "Network Locations" is gone.

I heavily depended on that one since it enabled me to quickly swap between network settings without having to manually change everything. It was a set and forget feature for different network zones.


so my question now is. Is there a alternative app, which allows me just to do that?


I have 6 different Network configurations within one network which each one only being accessible by changing the adapter to a specific ip range. And yes this is absolutely intended. I'm not going into detail as to why.


Why is it that with new designers and software engineers everything is literally making a step backward? Useful features are taken out and replaced with fancy unneeded UI's that make everything more complicated.

In Germany we call that "Verschlimmbessern" which literally means making something worse by updating it where a update wasn't needed.


Give us back Network Locations!!!


PS: I don't even want to know what else is gone....

Posted on Oct 24, 2022 11:42 PM

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Posted on Oct 25, 2022 7:16 PM

The UI for network locations has indeed been removed from the new System Settings. "Verschlimmbessern" indeed! However, the feature itself is still there, and working.


I'm not sure how you usually change the network location on your Mac - I'm guessing it was though the old System Preferences? The good news is that the other way of changing location is still present and functional: Click the "Apple" menu in the top-left of your screen - then use the "Location" submenu to pick a network location. Everything should change with a single click as it did before. You can use the System Settings app to configure the network settings for the currently selected location.


Note that you will only see the "Location" submenu if you had already configured additional locations before upgrading to Ventura. If you only had the original "Automatic" location it will be absent. You will need to add a new location for it to appear, and the only way I have been able to find to do this is via the command line (Terminal) - there's no way to do it through the System Settings app.


The command in question is "networksetup". These are the location-related options for that command:


Usage: networksetup -getcurrentlocation
    Display the name of the current location.
    
Usage: networksetup -listlocations
    List all of the locations.
    
Usage: networksetup -createlocation <location name> [populate]
    Create a new network location with the spcified name.
    If the optional term "populate" is included, the location will be populated with the
    default services.
    
Usage: networksetup -deletelocation <location name>
    Delete the location.
    
Usage: networksetup -switchtolocation <location name>
    Make the specified location the current location.		


So to create a location "Test" and populate it with default interfaces ready to configure, you'd enter the following in Terminal:


networksetup -createlocation Test populate


And you should now get the "Location" menu with your new "Test" location in it. Hope this is of some help!

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Oct 25, 2022 7:16 PM in response to Jaessr666

The UI for network locations has indeed been removed from the new System Settings. "Verschlimmbessern" indeed! However, the feature itself is still there, and working.


I'm not sure how you usually change the network location on your Mac - I'm guessing it was though the old System Preferences? The good news is that the other way of changing location is still present and functional: Click the "Apple" menu in the top-left of your screen - then use the "Location" submenu to pick a network location. Everything should change with a single click as it did before. You can use the System Settings app to configure the network settings for the currently selected location.


Note that you will only see the "Location" submenu if you had already configured additional locations before upgrading to Ventura. If you only had the original "Automatic" location it will be absent. You will need to add a new location for it to appear, and the only way I have been able to find to do this is via the command line (Terminal) - there's no way to do it through the System Settings app.


The command in question is "networksetup". These are the location-related options for that command:


Usage: networksetup -getcurrentlocation
    Display the name of the current location.
    
Usage: networksetup -listlocations
    List all of the locations.
    
Usage: networksetup -createlocation <location name> [populate]
    Create a new network location with the spcified name.
    If the optional term "populate" is included, the location will be populated with the
    default services.
    
Usage: networksetup -deletelocation <location name>
    Delete the location.
    
Usage: networksetup -switchtolocation <location name>
    Make the specified location the current location.		


So to create a location "Test" and populate it with default interfaces ready to configure, you'd enter the following in Terminal:


networksetup -createlocation Test populate


And you should now get the "Location" menu with your new "Test" location in it. Hope this is of some help!

Oct 25, 2022 7:25 AM in response to Jaessr666

Jaessr666 wrote:

Since for whatever reason Apple now decides that the System Settings should look like an Ipad/Iphone (seriously why???) one of my most work related used feature "Network Locations" is gone.
I heavily depended on that one since it enabled me to quickly swap between network settings without having to manually change everything. It was a set and forget feature for different network zones.

so my question now is. Is there a alternative app, which allows me just to do that?

I have 6 different Network configurations within one network which each one only being accessible by changing the adapter to a specific ip range. And yes this is absolutely intended. I'm not going into detail as to why.

Give us back Network Locations!!!




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